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marga
10-29-2000, 06:23 PM
Hi there,
I am wondering if anyone has any favorite movies with Aikido in them. I am curious to see Aikido outside of the dojo, for obvious reasons.

For that matter, does anyone have any not-so-favorite movies featuring Aikido?

I'll watch anything!


Marga Napiel

andrew
10-30-2000, 06:00 AM
marga wrote:

For that matter, does anyone have any not-so-favorite movies featuring Aikido?

I saw a movie once called "A low down dirty shame" with one of the Wayans in it. There was some aikido. It wasn't really all that much. I wouldn't make any effort to see it.
I doubt there's much apart from Seagal, anyhow.
andrew

Uresu
10-30-2000, 06:07 AM
andrew wrote:
marga wrote:

For that matter, does anyone have any not-so-favorite movies featuring Aikido?

I saw a movie once called "A low down dirty shame" with one of the Wayans in it. There was some aikido. It wasn't really all that much. I wouldn't make any effort to see it.
I doubt there's much apart from Seagal, anyhow.
andrew

Seagal actually does aikijutsu but hey thats where aikido comes from. Wessley Snipes does some aikido especially in demolition man. surprisingly, watch Bruce Lee closely and you see the odd technique creeping in. Oh, and Nina from tekken 3 as well.

Wes Harris.

MikeE
10-30-2000, 08:19 AM
There is a good "B" movie out there called The Guyver. It's kind of a weird sci-fi flick. They spend a while in an aikido dojo training munetsuki iriminage. (Not to mention you get to see the technique performed later on a dragon-like creature.

Enjoy.

Paul
11-01-2000, 09:54 AM
To uresu I am interested to know how you know Seagal performs aiki-jutsu in his movies. Can you tell me where you got that info . as I would be interested in reading it. Or are you saying that they are aiki-jutsu because they appear violent?


Regards Paul Finn, Edinburgh

Russ
11-01-2000, 12:40 PM
Rising Sun with Sean Connery and Wesley Snipes. Micheal Crighton's (sp?) pathetic attempt at imbueing a very Hollywood movie with Japanese cultural overtones.

That aside, Sean Connery's character practices aikdio and actually does a fine tenkan in one of the later fight scenes.

Check it out.

Yayo
11-01-2000, 04:30 PM
If I saw it right, a lady performs an ikkyo from kata tori in the movie The Ninth Gate.

jvdz
11-02-2000, 01:45 AM
I saw a part of Police Academy once where a woman demonstrates a very lousy shihonage, not worth watching.

Paul
11-02-2000, 04:22 AM
This probably should be a new thread however you all seem to know your movies, being from Scotland I am obviously a Sean Connery fan, I heard that he practices aikido in the states does anyone know where or with whom?

Regards Paul Finn
Edinburgh

leefr
11-02-2000, 05:46 AM
That mention of Nina in Tekken 3 reminded me(if you don't mind my mentioning video games). Many of the reversals in that game, especially against punches, are aikido techniques. Jin's reversals against punches are the tenkan version of ikkyo, very nicely rendered, although he breaks the arm at the end(hey, it's just a game). Another version of ikkyo appears when Jin grabs his opponent from the side(I forget if its the right or left). He does a 'sweeping the floor' ikkyo.

Paul's reversals against punches are also reminiscent of aikido techniques. At close range, he'll move inside the punch and do a roll with the opponent. At a farther range, he'll do a very cool kokyunage with the opponent's arm. Oh, and one of Nina's grabs from the side is a somewhat flimsy version of kaitenage.

You can probably see I used to be nuts about that game. It's aikido outside the dojo, in any case :)


Frederick Lee

andrew
11-02-2000, 07:04 AM
Uresu wrote:


Seagal actually does aikijutsu but hey thats where aikido comes from.
No, he does Aikido.
andrew

scubaman57
11-02-2000, 11:19 PM
One of the earliest Aikido demos in an American Produced commercial movie was in the Return of Billy Jack. Billy Jack did TKD but there was an Aikidoist in it also. Back then it was cutting edge ideology

George S. Ledyard
11-03-2000, 03:45 AM
scubaman57 wrote:
One of the earliest Aikido demos in an American Produced commercial movie was in the Return of Billy Jack. Billy Jack did TKD but there was an Aikidoist in it also. Back then it was cutting edge ideology

John MacLaughlin (sp?) who played Billy Jack was actually a Hapkido man. Studied under Joo Bang Lee I believe.

Elric123
11-03-2000, 05:17 PM
Has anyone seen Steven Segeal's documentary movie listed on his web site?

Whats the deal with all of the Tibetian Budist stuff hes into, anyone know how that got started? I could see Shinto, or something Japaneese, but Tibet...?

The most long winded newbie LOL
Trent Loreant

shadow
11-03-2000, 07:58 PM
Elric123 said
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Whats the deal with all of the Tibetian Budist stuff hes into, anyone know how that got started? I could see Shinto, or something Japaneese, but Tibet...?
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(I dunno how to include a quote from someone else so...hehe)

Steven seagal has been into tibetan buddhism for a very long time but has just kept it very quite until recently when he was recognised as the reincarnation of a terton Tulku (a treasure finder), these are people that somehow will come across valuable lost manuscripts or some other important buddhist relic. He was recognised by Penor Rinpoche who is the head of the Nymgmapa lineage which is the oldest school of tibetan buddhism.
So to make it basic, he is a reasonably important figure in Tibetan buddhism.

hehe well there is a little bit of info for you.

damien

crystalwizard
11-03-2000, 08:43 PM
shadow wrote:

(I dunno how to include a quote from someone else so...hehe)


Look at the very top of this post right next to my name. see the icons on the right side of that line? hold the cursor over them. one of them should say reply with quote. click on it to reply to the post and include a quote. Then cut out all the parts you dont want to quote. Be carefuly not to cut out the html quote, bold and other tags though.

Elric123
11-04-2000, 10:57 PM
Damian,
That does sound important, I guess if someone came up to me and said, "Hey your the reincarnation of a very important mystical person," I would be at a loss to argue. LOL

Hey apparently they hid one of those scrolls in the baby sitter. Oops (no offence :))

Guess thats a no about his movie though, I'll have to order it and offer a review (Does anyone see how ironic that sounds?).

One of my favs was Matrix, I am starting to see why Neo didnt learn Aikido... The movie would have been over. Hehe...

Trent

kironin
11-05-2000, 09:46 PM
Russ wrote:
Rising Sun with Sean Connery and Wesley Snipes. Micheal Crighton's (sp?) pathetic attempt at imbueing a very Hollywood movie with Japanese cultural overtones.

That aside, Sean Connery's character practices aikdio and actually does a fine tenkan in one of the later fight scenes.

Check it out.


Actually, Sean Connery was on the
tonight show a few years ago talking about training with Seagal. It might have been for promoting Rising Sun, but I think his training with Seagal was earlier for the last James Bond movie he did (Never Say Never...).
I remember him saying Seagal had injured his wrist once.

Craig

Shamaz
11-05-2000, 10:29 PM
My favorite martial arts movie to date is "The Challenge" with the late Toshiro Mifune & Scott Glenn. Steven Seagal was the "fight scene choreographer."
In Scott Glenn's character's first fighting experience w/ Budo he experiences Kaiten-nage & Iriminage. A later fight scene has him duelling with a senior student with jo. This film also features some bokken training and, of course, fighting with live blades. Also, some humorous moments, some gory moments but the film as a whole was quite enjoyable to this Aikidoist.
Nowadays, I've been trying to get ahold of a film by Ang Lee entitled "Pushing Hands" but it's very rare. This one doesn't feature Aikido but Tai Chi but a reviewer with Journal of Asian Martial Arts rates it his favorite martial arts film.

SmilingNage
11-06-2000, 04:28 AM
i think u only live twice has some aikido like scenes. its one of the bond movies where he is in japan. there is the scene when connery is on the roof tops down by the wharfs, and it looks like one big ran- dori on top of the building. its pretty cool

djleyva
11-06-2000, 01:53 PM
scubaman57 wrote:
One of the earliest Aikido demos in an American Produced commercial movie was in the Return of Billy Jack. Billy Jack did TKD but there was an Aikidoist in it also. Back then it was cutting edge ideology


Av\ctually billy jack practiced a korean art called hapkido. Master Bong Soo Han was the guy who actuall did the martial arts in Billy Jack. It may look like aikido because the founder of Hapkido was a student of Sokaku Takeda, andso there areobviously manyr principles and techniques shared between Aikido\and Hapkido. The Chinese characters for both arts are even the same.
For more info on hapkido check out http://www.geocities.com/songs_hkd/introducinghapkido.html

sfellwock
11-07-2000, 02:07 PM
John MacLaughlin (sp?) who played Billy Jack was actually a Hapkido man. Studied under Joo Bang Lee I believe.

Actually, [/B]Tom Laughlin[/B] played Billy Jack.

-Steve

cguzik
11-07-2000, 03:34 PM
Elric123 wrote:
Has anyone seen Steven Segeal's documentary movie listed on his web site?


There actually used to be a review on that video somewhere around here. I just looked but can't seem to find it.

Maybe Jun would be kind enough to point the way?

Chris Guzik

akiy
11-07-2000, 03:42 PM
cguzik wrote:
There actually used to be a review on that video somewhere around here. I just looked but can't seem to find it.

Maybe Jun would be kind enough to point the way?
Sure: Review #1 (http://www.aikiweb.com/supplies/videos/reviews/path1.html)
Review #2 (http://www.aikiweb.com/supplies/videos/reviews/path2.html)
Review #3 (http://www.aikiweb.com/supplies/videos/reviews/path3.html)
Review #4 (http://www.aikiweb.com/supplies/videos/reviews/path4.html)
Review #5 (http://www.aikiweb.com/supplies/videos/reviews/path5.html)
Review #6 (http://www.aikiweb.com/supplies/videos/reviews/path6.html)
-- Jun

djleyva
11-07-2000, 10:36 PM
[/B][/QUOTE]
John MacLaughlin (sp?) who played Billy Jack was actually a Hapkido man. Studied under Joo Bang Lee I believe. [/B][/QUOTE]

Joo Bang Lee is not even a hapkido man. He is the founder of a korean martial art called hwarangdo. Sorry if I seem a little sensitive, but I am a hapkido guy myself.

ian
11-09-2000, 10:42 AM
I often can't tell the difference between a jujutsu move and an aiki move in films; they usually do them in such small circles and often with a tendancy to get a dramatic snapping noise. - this is esp. true of kote-gaeshis and ikkyos. Mission impossible 2 seemed to be of that ilk, plenty of ukemis as well.

I'm suprised nobody has mentioned Xiayou (is that how its spelt?) on Tekken 3. One of her throws is an obvious aiki style kote gaeshi, the other throw is like a kokyu nage with a distinct vertical circle movement.

marga
11-13-2000, 10:50 PM
Well I now have a crazy diverse list of movies to watch, some of which may or may not feature aikido. And a game! Yay!
Thanks so much!
This will be fun!

Marga Napiel

Uresu
11-14-2000, 03:53 PM
ian wrote:

I'm suprised nobody has mentioned Xiayou (is that how its spelt?) on Tekken 3. One of her throws is an obvious aiki style kote gaeshi, the other throw is like a kokyu nage with a distinct vertical circle movement.

And Nina does a fantastic leading tenkan type thingy. PLus for you judo fans Paul does a great Ippon Seonage and a equally skillful O Soto Gari and Jin Does a nice variation on Yamarashi.

Xaiyou does shaolin kung fu, but according to my sensei thats where nearly all martial arts originated so it doesn't surprise me.

I love Tekken 3, it's great.

Wes

RICK
12-03-2000, 07:14 PM
The Substitute II and IIII have some fairly good stuff in them. Treat Williams stars in these movies as well as The Substitute III ( not so good). Treat's character has a very aiki attitude in these films.
These movies are rated R so to the minors out there, check with mom and dad first.

Erik
12-04-2000, 01:06 AM
I happened to be watching "Walker Texas Ranger" for a brief minute (channel surfing) and I saw a full-fledged irimi nage. Not by Walker but by one of the younger Texas Rangers. The ending was pure close-line but the blend was definitely there. Surprised the hell out of me.

Alas, I don't even know the character's name (it was a woman) or when they added the younger generation.

sue i.
12-10-2000, 02:56 PM
While Jet Li is not an Aikidoist, check out Fist of Legend, which is an excellent movie in its own right. I did see him preform at least one jujinage and a reverse kotegaeshi. I think its one of the best martial arts movies of all time.

Syniq
01-05-2001, 07:53 AM
Isn't Hokuto an Aikidoka?

Cody

Chocolateuke
01-07-2001, 05:02 PM
see croucing tiger hinden dragon no aikido but great fighting! also MI2 has some irimi in it. Does anyone know where I can rent to old verson of Drunken Master?

IrimiTom
06-16-2002, 10:34 AM
I think this thread is more about aikido techniques in movies but still, I thought The Matrix was very aiki towards the end...
"Are you saying I can dodge bullets? -No, I'm saying you won't have to"
At the end when Neo finally "gets it" he totally negates the agents' attacks...seems like "instantaneous victory" to me.

JPT
06-16-2002, 03:54 PM
China O'Brien starring Cynthia Rothrock has a couple of Aikido techniques right at the very start!
:triangle: :circle: :square:

Chocolateuke
06-16-2002, 08:46 PM
Weasly snipes in the first blade does a kote- gashi in the party scene. very cool stuff.

Ecosamurai
06-17-2002, 03:45 AM
I have my doubts as to much of what appears in films being Aikido at all, fair enough, little bits and pieces here and there, the odd technique, but I'm not too sure that that counts.
I've thought of two things to do with films that are aikido-ish though:

Karate Kid III - Pat Morita apparently didn't want to do the film, but they offered him a large sum of money so he said ok, whilst trying to do the fight scenes he just couldn't manage it 'cos he said he was too old to be doing that sort of stuff. So they got him to do Aikido instead. Keep an eye open for some of the nice little bits of taisabaki he does in the fight in the cobra-kai dojo.

Grosse Point Blank - John Cusack's conversation with the old high school bully in the corridor at the reunion. Plus a nervous little nikyo he does just before that scene also.

Mike Haft

George S. Ledyard
06-17-2002, 06:59 AM
Originally posted by djleyva

John MacLaughlin (sp?) who played Billy Jack was actually a Hapkido man. Studied under Joo Bang Lee I believe. [/B][/QUOTE]

Joo Bang Lee is not even a hapkido man. He is the founder of a korean martial art called hwarangdo. Sorry if I seem a little sensitive, but I am a hapkido guy myself. [/B][/QUOTE]
Sorry for any confusion. Judging by the link below I think I can be forgiven as there seems to be a fair amount of confusion amongst the folks themselves.

Hapkido / Hwawrangdo (http://www.hwarangdo.com/hrd2.htm)

Anyway, I misremembered who Laughlin's teacher was anyway.

jk
06-17-2002, 07:46 AM
Originally posted by George S. Ledyard
Anyway, I misremembered who Laughlin's teacher was anyway.

Wasn't Laughlin's teacher Bong Soo Han? I believe Bong Soo Han did some of the action sequences in "Billy Jack." But then, Bong Soo Han also appeared in "Kentucky Fried Movie"...

Regards,

Sherman Byas
06-17-2002, 09:48 AM
Try to find a movie "The Challenge" starring the lateToshiro Mifune & Scott Glenn. Steven Segal did the fight chore' for this movie. It was released before "Above the Law" (1982) There is a scene where the American boxer (Glenn) challenges a student of Mifune's. Lots of strong Aiki/Jutsu applied to his aching body. Also, some decent sword/bokken practice & fight scenes.

tedward
06-19-2002, 04:25 AM
Since video games have been mentioned Virtua Fighter also features aikido heavilly with Aoi and kage .

Joe D
06-19-2002, 10:20 AM
Shamaz,

Here is a link to the movie by Ang Lee for which you are searching.

http://half.ebay.com/cat/buy/prod.cgi?cpid=2023096&domain_id=1877&meta_id=3

I found it while searching for another film.

Hope this helps.
Take care,
Joe

Cessna
06-19-2002, 10:41 AM
Okay, I'm going to earn some serious "geek points" with this, but bear with me.

I was watching Star Trek on the Sci-Fi channel. Old Star Trek. With Captain Kirk.

Okay, stop laughing.

Anyway, the episode was "A Taste of Armageddon." Ol' Kirk gets into a fight with a guard/thug - the usual melodramatic exchange of punches follows.

Then, out of nowhere, the guard grabbed Kirk's hand - and Kirk grabbed the guard's wrists and did a passable katatetori shihonage omote!

I almost fell out of my chair...!

cguzik
06-19-2002, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by Sherman Byas
Try to find a movie "The Challenge" starring the lateToshiro Mifune & Scott Glenn. Steven Segal did the fight chore' for this movie. It was released before "Above the Law" (1982) There is a scene where the American boxer (Glenn) challenges a student of Mifune's. Lots of strong Aiki/Jutsu applied to his aching body. Also, some decent sword/bokken practice & fight scenes.

This movie has also been marketed and shown under the name Sword of the Ninja. (Note that this title is misleading, the movie has no ninjutsu).

Chris

fjcsuper
06-26-2002, 09:29 AM
HI!

Have anyone seen or played the video game "buriki one"? Its a game which you chose your character to compete. There are characters who use karate, TKD, muay thai, boxing, sumo, pro wrestling and some more.

There is a 17 year old character which is the aikido character in it. I do not know how to do his moves, cos its damn hard! But I have seen the computer perform iriminage on my TKD character! Then my character would be thrown high.

Do anyone know how to perform the moves in the game? Or introduce to me any other website that show me the stuff?

http://www.tekken.nu/fightermania/bo/bo.htm

ChristianBoddum
06-26-2002, 09:50 AM
Hi everybody !
In the seventies there was a series starring
Roger moore and Tony Curtis ,I only remember its name in danish (sorry!),but I saw a rerun
some time ago where a young woman jumped out
from behind a showercurtain and did a fight
scene ,most definitely aikido all the way,
as I recall she was blond.
Who around 1970 could this have been ?
I hope to to catch it on video one day.
have a nice day y'all.
yours - Chr.B.

Choku Tsuki
06-26-2002, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by ChristianBoddum
Hi everybody !
In the seventies there was a series starring
Roger moore and Tony Curtis ,I only remember its name in danish (sorry!)

I love Internet movie database:

http://us.imdb.com/Title?0066701

As for the episode, I dunno. There's an episode synopsis here:

http://www.cultv.co.uk/persuaders.htm

--Chuck

ChristianBoddum
06-26-2002, 01:41 PM
Right on Chuck !
The persuaders,that's the one,thanks !

kung fu hamster
07-24-2002, 01:29 PM
I thought I saw some aikido moves in the fight scene between the big redhead and the Northerner in 13th Warrior (which said movie is like a complete remake of Seven Samurai - the warriors being selected for the mission, coming to the village and seeing the poor defences, wily strategies with the villagers including a 'duel/face-off', tracking the enemy to the enemy's lair to attempt a pre-emptive strike, building the pointy outer 'fortress' wall around the village, the final last-stand battle in the rain, final death of a heroic defender...). But when it comes to farfetched aikido, I have to mention Marilyn Monroe executing a shihonage on Tom Ewell (with his finger stuck in a bottle) in the movie ‘7 Year Itch’(done in a purely aiki spirit, of course).... :)

Kevin Wilbanks
07-24-2002, 08:40 PM
I've seen PUSHING HANDS. It's not that rare. You can rent the DVD at netflix.com - great service BTW. It's not action packed, but it exhibits a less superficial understanding of martial arts/tai chi than most movies.

The best Aikido movie I've seen is the old standard: ABOVE THE LAW. It's also the only Seagal movie that's halfway watchable - all the rest I have to just fast forward to the action.

A hollywood movie that has some cool ninja and samurai stuff in it is THE HUNTED, with Christopher Lambert. It gets lame at the end, but there's some cool ninja/bujutsu stuff, and it has a great soundtrack by KODO.

K.

chadsieger
07-25-2002, 10:16 AM
Robert Stack in the movie Airplane! performs a decent kotegaishi on a Hare Krishna (or is it Scientologist?) when confronted in the airport. The uke's high fall helps the look, but at least Bobby's back was straight and his elbows were in. Comedy Aikido.

wanderingwriath
07-25-2002, 01:40 PM
Check out a horrible martial arts B movie called China O'Brian starring Cynthia Rothrock. Within the first twenty minutes you will see her use some Aikido techniques and even call them out by name.

Also, there's another MA B movie that stars Kathy Long as a "Woman Without a Name" Clint Eastwoodish, westernish, biker.

mj
07-25-2002, 03:28 PM
Martial artists are some of the most dedicated people in the world....but we get the worst movies :disgust:

(Don't start me on Rothrock)

mj
07-25-2002, 03:30 PM
Surely the best MA film is Bad Day at Black Rock with Spenser Tracy :)

IrimiTom
08-14-2002, 07:33 AM
I just saw "The Bourne Identity" and I think I saw a Ushiro Katatori Sankyo at one point. Of course after freeing himself from the hold the guy kicks the snot out of the grabber and other 3 or 4 dudes just like in all the other fight scenes. It looked a lot more like jujutsu to me but then again I'm no jujutsu expert.

JJF
08-14-2002, 07:47 AM
I stumbled upon an episode of 'Chicago Hope' where one of the characters (black fellow - I think his name is Dennis) subdues a troublesome patien by grabbing his hand and doing what seemed a bit like a short form of kote-gaeshi (no flip though - he just used the lock to push the guy to the ground backwards). It was a bit hard to se, since the camera was more interested in the guys faces than their hands.

gobzhad
08-14-2002, 07:23 PM
Seagal's ACKNOWLEDGED style is TenShinKai Aikido? In fact, he TEACHES it, too.

Veers
08-30-2002, 01:23 PM
Doesn't Nina use a lot of other styles mixed in? Some of her grabs I know are from aikido, but she has a lot of kicking and jabbing manuvers...are those aikido or something they added in so she wouldn't be such a defensive character? (BTW, Nina+Xiayou=wicked team in Tekken Tag)

Choku Tsuki
08-30-2002, 03:17 PM
"The Challenge" starring the lateToshiro Mifune & Scott Glenn. Steven Segal did the fight chore' for this movie.
Actually the choreography credit goes to "Steve Seagal"; same person, different name.

A small detail from a person who appreciates small details.

--Chuck