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02-08-2003, 02:49 PM
Does anyone know a website that has bokken and/or jo kata that I could learn on them?
02-08-2003, 04:12 PM
If you're OK with the Iwama aiki-ken and aiki-jo, try these:
02-09-2003, 08:58 AM
You can find discriptions of 13 & 31 Jo Kata here:
13 Jo Kata (http://www.shudokan.org.uk/uk/reference/13_jo_kata.htm)
31 Jo Kata (http://www.shudokan.org.uk/uk/reference/31_jo_kata.htm)
02-27-2003, 03:26 PM
I am a shotokan student but I too have been looking for a jo kata. I can follow the 13 jo kata but need some clarification.Step #5.. step forward with the left foot and TENKAN on it...? I think tenkan means turn. Are you turning 180 and facing the other direction in hasso position left ft forward? Step #7..Tenkan which way and protect the left side of the head how? Step #10.. protect the head how (same as #7?)? Step 11... is the jo parallel with the groud pointing forward or side to side. What are the hand positions. I assume jo is pointing forward at shoulder level, left hand palm down, rt palm up. Then in step 12 the jo turns in left hand to palm up and rt grabs palm down for the rear tsuki strike.
Any assistance would be helpful.
From Blair's post it sounds like this is not a good method of learning--maybe it is best as a supplement. I have been taught the 13 and 31 but reading Blair's questions it becomes clear to me that I could never instruct the kata verbally, and certainly not with written text alone.
But here's what I could contribute:
#5 is step w/ LF, "tenkan" meaning pivot on that foot while rotating towards the right. RF sweeps to the rear to get back to hanmi facing 180 from where you started. Anyway the point is not to tenkan and go to hasso position, the point is the actual hasso movement where you push away an attacking jo.. really I couldn't describe it in text.
#7-- RF is already forward, pivot on it to the left, jo sweeps across your front and ends at your side, protecting the face on its way toward protecting the side. The movement and ending position are way beyond my ability to describe--can't even do it right with my body anyway..
#10..different than 7 but similar, and equally hard to describe..
#11 is a high tsuki, nothing weird. tsuki to the ..sternum?.. gee I feel dumb now. Jo isn't parallel to ground because on your end you are holding it higher than on the tsuki end.
Whew... anyway I hope my point comes across that to describe these things outside of a class really probably misses most of it..
but I hope I helped a little..
03-08-2003, 08:41 PM
Well the only form of learn the aiki jo kata (6,13 and 31 movement)is in the Iwama's dojos,becuse it born on study of Saito Sensei learn of OSensei.
Saito Sensei is the only person that Osensei show the complet study of the weapons in aikido,Saito is the only master of aiki ken and aiki jo in live of Ueshiba.
Today akido's dojos pactise more katas of kenjutsu's ryu,kashima,yagyu,muso(for the jo)....but the aikiken and aikijo are reality aikido's weapons system art,whit a big pedagogyc system of ejercices.
Salutes of Spain sorry for my bad English.
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