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[blackburnaj]

During training today, my sensei taught some techniques a little different than usual. He remarked that he and Ano Sensei were viewing an old tape of Tojiba Sensei. He then showed us some techniques from Tojiba Sensei that he witnessed recently and practiecd years ago.

These techniques appealed to me very much. I understand that technique is somewhat specific to each practioner as what works for some may not work for others. I also understand that you must, out of respect, practice what you are being shown. But my question is how can you train and develope your own aikido, without commiting some type of disrespect?

Please understand that I am not trying to change aikido into something different, only trying to improve my understanding.

Thank you for your remarks,

Alan Blackburn(aj)

[akiy]

But my question is how can you train and develope your own aikido, without commiting some type of disrespect?
I would daresay, "Train with someone who allows the freedom to develop your own aikido"...

-- Jun

[tedehara]

...But my question is how can you train and develope your own aikido, without commiting some type of disrespect?...Kashiwaya Sensei (http://www.aikiweb.com/interviews/kashiwaya1200.html) said something like: First you practice your sensei's Aikido, then you practice your own Aikido. Finally, you just practice Aikido.

I don't see any disrespect - just progression.

[JW]

Exactly.. check out the article on "Shu-ha-ri" by Chiba sensei.

Basically: there is a time to learn what experienced people know, and later when you learn it, there is time to innovate.

I am interested in the techniques you saw that day--how were they different?

--JW

[Creature_of_the_id]

Train with multiple instructors (If possible). Each will do technique differently, some will be more to your liking than others, some will work in different situations with different Ukes. The more variations and alternatives you can be shown the more options you have in any given situation.

Until you get to shodan in which you tend to have more freedom to express yourself as an aikidoka and let go of the form and just do aikido.

[mike lee]

Please understand that I am not trying to change aikido into something different, only trying to improve my understanding.

A painter needs to learn to draw forms and mix colors long before he can begin to let his creative expression flow. This is the same with aikido.

First we master the basics.

Creativity often occurs during rondori, when we learn to apply the basics to free-flowing movement.

:do:

[Bruce Baker]

We all steal the techniques of those we learn from. When they become ours, others steal from us. When others begin to steal from you, then you will have begun the journey to understand.

So long as you continue to learn, you will always be a student, but when you must teach because you have less and less peers, you will have reached your goal.