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jaxonbrown
08-26-2002, 02:58 PM
This guy says 'doosh' whenever he fake-punches. I tell him there's no need to make mouth-sounds when doing this but he shrugs and keeps doing it. Just wondering if anyone can recommend a better mouth-sound than 'doosh'. Thanks

DaveO
08-26-2002, 03:23 PM
Lol - I like 'woof', myself.

shihonage
08-26-2002, 03:29 PM
You can't just go ahead and change what you sound like when the sound comes out involuntarily like that.

erikmenzel
08-26-2002, 03:57 PM
I think "doosh" is still better than a person making kiais at the wrong end all the time. :D

ChristianBoddum
08-26-2002, 04:54 PM
Hi !

I think we must make a distinction between a

funny sound and a real kiai,the first time I

felt the difference between a technique with

and without kiai it was a shock,me being uke,

I felt the diffence in the power so much,it literally felt like I was being slammed into the mat though the tecnique was performed no

different than without kiai.

I now know it is safer to train without kiai

but I also know that if I need to defend myself that kiai will turbocharge your techniques power.

Train safely - Chr.B.

MaylandL
08-26-2002, 08:39 PM
...Just wondering if anyone can recommend a better mouth-sound than 'doosh'. ...
How about "aawwww nuts!!". Seem to saying that a lot lately ;)

Deb Fisher
08-27-2002, 12:25 AM
... slightly tangential, but does anyone else ever get "Peas Porridge Hot, Peas Porridge Cold" stuck in their head during tenkan practice? You know, when everybody's tenkaning at the same time?

Ben_t_shodan
08-27-2002, 12:49 AM
Dose he make sounds in other situations that donít need it? for instance dose he mute video games and make his own sound effects?

Oh, just for something to look at for sounds. In chi gong there are different sounds for different organs and parts of the body. You might pick a sound from that, if it helps.

Your Uke

Ben

opherdonchin
08-27-2002, 01:11 AM
I do get a children's song stuck in my head, but it happens during random techniques and the words are changed from what I remember as a kid. It goes

************
Be Kind to your uke
Though they don't deserve it
Remember that uke is

A difficult stage of life
They're apt to be nervous
And over-excited

Confused by their daily storm and strife
So treat them with patience
And sweet understanding

In spite of the foolish things they do
Some day you may wake up
And find you're an uke, too
*************

People from my dojo will attest that I actually sing this sometimes when I get caught up in the fun of it all.

The song I learned when I was a kid had the word 'parents' instead of 'uke.' I don't know what the original song is, though.

erminio
08-27-2002, 01:23 AM
Good lyrics! What about the music?

Bye

Erminio (I think I'm going to be uke, maybe I could sing this song to my tori)

mike lee
08-27-2002, 04:57 AM
I prefer a loud fart, but I can't do it all the time. :ki:

isshinryu88
08-27-2002, 06:28 AM
... slightly tangential, but does anyone else ever get "Peas Porridge Hot, Peas Porridge Cold" stuck in their head during tenkan practice? You know, when everybody's tenkaning at the same time?
Sigh- NOW I do :rolleyes:

Bruce Baker
08-27-2002, 06:50 AM
Just shake your head, laugh, and let it go.

Once you discover the sounds that work to enhance movement, those sound effects of a bad movie will be quite laughable.

While your friend is being a characterture, you should enjoy it ... while you take the time to learn to breathe properly and learn the proper sounds.

ChristianBoddum
08-27-2002, 08:35 AM
Hi !

By the way I am a BAM!-person myself.

yours - Chr.B.

Guest5678
08-27-2002, 08:35 AM
sssmmootthh...

-Mongo

JimAde
08-27-2002, 09:29 AM
... slightly tangential, but does anyone else ever get "Peas Porridge Hot, Peas Porridge Cold" stuck in their head during tenkan practice? You know, when everybody's tenkaning at the same time?
I had a sensei who, when we were first learning shihonage, pointed out that it was a waltz-like rhythm (1-2-3 throw). So now, sure enough, I hear the Blue Danube Waltz every time I do this technique :rolleyes:

Deb Fisher
08-27-2002, 08:41 PM
Very nice, Jim!

Your body's doing shihonage...

Your'e hearing the Blue Danube Waltz...

Do you have an image of the space station from Kubrick's 2001 lolling around in empty space, with the stewardess putting the pen back into the pocket, etc, too?

Because that's something!

Paula Lydon
08-28-2002, 09:24 AM
~~I make all sorts of different sounds at different times because they just come out. One friend accuses me of 'fake Japanese'. Also tend to sing under my breath if so moved...oooo, did I admit that out loud? ;)

JimAde
08-28-2002, 10:02 AM
Do you have an image of the space station from Kubrick's 2001 lolling around in empty space, with the stewardess putting the pen back into the pocket, etc, too?
No, but when I do it wrong, I sometimes feel like an ape-man pounding uke's arm bone into the mat :blush:

joan
08-28-2002, 11:59 AM
When I first started training when the sensei would punch at me I swore he was saying "WUSS!" which did seem appropriate.

After watching the last round of first kyu tests the other sempai and I came up with a song (to the tune of "Forty ninth street bridge song", or "feelin' groovy")

Slow down, you move too fast

You got to make the waza last

so Relax, center down

Extend your ki

And there goes uke!

So on occasion I find myself humming "there goes uke" although it's frequently "OOPS"

Joan

Deb Fisher
08-28-2002, 02:55 PM
You know, occasionally my sensei makes this sound that sounds a lot like a long, slow, breathy

beeeeeyyaaaattttccccchhhhh

He is partial to sound effects in general, but usually he sounds more like a Ty Fighter.

Megan
08-30-2002, 03:49 PM
On the tangent of songs getting stuck in your head, once I had "When I'm 64" stuck in my head during class...why I don't know. Then there was the morning when we were about to bow in and I could not get "The Purple People Eater" out of my mind.

Thom Hansen
08-30-2002, 08:08 PM
Through out life we all make different sounds to help our body keep rhythm. when doing some techniques i quite often make a "beuinggg" type sound.

Neil Mick
08-31-2002, 11:45 PM
Personally, my sound effects all go back to comic books, especially Marvel (Spiderman), and DC's Batman...Foom! Swoosh! and Thwapp!

are big fave's.

But then, I try to fine-tune the strike to the noise: yokomon-uchi (earrraough! -airplane); tsuki (see above); and the ever-famous katata-dori kiai ("Gimme yer lunch money, punk!").

Of course, then there's the kiai for falling ("OK! Call it a draw, then?").

Happy ukemi! :)

DaveO
09-01-2002, 03:07 AM
My personal uke-for-a-nikkyo kiai's:

Level 1:"Owie owie owie owowowow..."

Level 2: "Leggoleggoleggoleggo!!"

Level 3: "Ferchrissekestopyougoddamnsadist!!"

;)

Dave

Genex
09-03-2002, 05:35 AM
hmm there are alsorts

usualy when i train i have some song or another stuck in my head (i'm one of those ppl who get songs really stuck in their head for days)

but when i Atemi i usualy say the word 'Atemi' or sometimes 'Hai' not sure why tho, as for Yonkyo its usualy 'AAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGH!' followed by my feat banging on the mat

and tenchi nage 'Gaggggckkkk hmphfff...'

the 'gaggggckkk' is the finger in the neck and the 'hmphfff' is the air knocked out of me as i go splat...

I really must breathe out before i splat tho,

if i'm giving it flair i'll pretend to be bruce lee 'WhAAAAAAAaaahtAAAHHHHHHHHH!'

hehehe

pete

ian
09-03-2002, 06:48 AM
Many martial artists would argue that any old sound is not appropriate for the kiai. Ueshiba used Yah and eey alot; not sure if these were related to Kotadama. Speaking to someone who does alot of tibetan chanting he was saying that the ki cannot be released if the word ends with the tongue on the roof of the mouth or the throat constricted, thus kiai should end with a vowel sound and not something like 'kick','dig','cut', 'strike' etc.

For me the kiai helps with the contracting of the abdominal muscles, and also the coordination of the whole bodies muscles. It does have a large effect (I have noticed in weapon work that if someone attacks me whilst using kiai, I generally need to use kiai to defend effectively due to the increased power!). Thus Yah and Eeey are excellent words (and Ueshiba actually recomends them). Another one of my favourites is 'die'.

Ian

AlanWardroper
09-21-2002, 02:28 PM
Personally, my sound effects all go back to comic books, especially Marvel (Spiderman), and DC's Batman...Foom! Swoosh! and Thwapp!
I always thought FOOM stood for Friends Of Ol' Marvel -- wasn't that a Marvel fan club thing for a while in the 70s?

Bruce Baker
09-21-2002, 03:15 PM
As long as we are talking about the humorous sounds ...

Slurp that drool before it hits the mat, haven't we got enough to clean up around here?

And that chant you do when you start to sweat," Oh, God ... Make 'em stop ... I think that I am .... going to drop." What is that all about?

Oh, is a sound, but where does whining come into training? It should be growling, shouldn't it?

And my favorite sounds ... Yame ... class is over.

j0nharris
09-26-2002, 02:27 PM
When doing technique, I have a habit of pursing my lips, and making a small popping sound as Uke hits the mat, or when launching them with a long throw :D

davoravo
09-26-2002, 05:22 PM
Speaking to someone who does alot of tibetan chanting he was saying that the ki cannot be released if the word ends with the tongue on the roof of the mouth or the throat constricted, thus kiai should end with a vowel sound and not something like 'kick','dig','cut', 'strike' etc.
One sensei told me that Saito sensei liked a short sharp kiai. So we use "EEHP" to blend agaisnt a strongly resistant uke and "AAHP" to atemi.

PS waltz time should be 1-2-throw (on the 3)

Jucas
09-26-2002, 05:47 PM
As everyone, I have many different sounds that rise from my koshi.

They seem to come from my center, and they really improve my technique...

My favorites:

Nage

"Sooooooooaaaaa..."

Uke

"Haaaaauiii..."

"*Crack!*..... good god! I can't feel my legs!"

and a follow up to the aforementioned-

"AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!"

But the one that seems to rise above all the rest in aiki spirit:

"Quack!"

:p

Eila Saarni
10-12-2002, 04:16 PM
usually what happens:gasp with a slight sound, when Nage steps on my fingers,a kind of pinched throat noise/croak when beginer nage holds me down by the neck when I'm in forward roll stance for Kaiten-nage and sholder makes fun noises like rice krispies cerial and milk ,after I'm thrown ,the good old fashond yelp, when they kneel on my hair or dont stop the pin after tapping out (tap...TAP..taptaptaptaptap..... *weird kind of kick when youre on your belly, on the mat with sankyo pin** and a few STOP THATs and le'ggo's!!!) anf much much more...;) or I' shall make a list :)

Eila Saarni
10-15-2002, 11:54 PM
Tenchi Nage: A muffled exhale, or muumpfh,when my face getd caught by the elbow...and they flex their elbow...

Yonkyo,Pin : Hey! Quit that! when they sit on my back...

Suwari waza,ikkio,nikkio,sankyo,yonkyo: an Owwww,or AaHhhah, when they kneel on your back land their knee onto your chest or tummy, or the ever fun not paying attention to me tapping out

ajbarron
10-18-2002, 12:43 PM
How about Star Wars light sabres.(red or blue)

Vuuuuuuuuuut. choooooooo Vuuuuuuuuut

or

Paff.

Zot.

Pow. (to borrow from Batman)

Every so often I find a partner who is in the same mind-set as me and we are musketeers, star war characters etc. it makes us smile and flow. Gee what a surprise, that's what I was trying to do anyway!!!!!!!

BC
10-18-2002, 01:50 PM
When I realize I'm going to get reversed: "Uh oh..."

Xellous
11-01-2002, 12:16 PM
This reminds me about the horror movie we made in school: The (un)silence of the shopping carts. One person were sitting in a shopping cart, and the other one running around with it. It started out with an innocent chicken-race, and ended with Fabian throwing a bike on one of them from an elevated position(school roof). Then we added sound effects...

Shopping cart chrashing into second shopping cart: BAAAANG!

Shopping cart chrashing into garage wall: CHRASH!!!

Friend throwing up while in shopping cart: BLAARG!

Now, what this have to do with Aikido, I know not, but I do know that the results of our movie making was fun...and that's what matters, isn't it?

Eila Saarni
11-08-2002, 05:23 PM
Ah, Shopping cart olyimpics. Its always fun when you hit the curb and fall into bushes, or your jerk of a freind pushes you out into the street. I prefer doing trick ridding on my horse when I drop my cell phone. where My horse will lope past my phone and I'll lean off the side of the saddle

Eila Saarni
11-08-2002, 05:25 PM
Also if you fall off of a horse, most ukemi will work well as long as you can get up quickly