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08-23-2015, 03:08 PM

Some examples of using Aikido principles and strategies outside of Kihon Waza. Do you also explore such things?

Michael Hackett
08-23-2015, 06:02 PM
Hi David,

Yes. This techniques are quite effective generally. Of course the age-old problem still exists - how many cops will actually practice these techniques to gain proficiency and maintain it? As usual, it will be low. Good for those who do. Having SOME knowledge of technique is better than nothing for the rest.

08-23-2015, 08:57 PM
Hi Mike,

Yup - that's another problem: Cops don't train, but underneath that is another problem - that they don't get paid to train. And, underneath that there's another problem - that the public doesn't want to pay for them to train. The job just requires them to be trained and the public just wants them trained and everyone wants it presto-magico now.


Riai Maori
08-23-2015, 09:31 PM
Looks fancy, but an enraged PCP addict ain't going to fall for that stuff. You may have to use the little thing called a trigger for assistance.:cool:

08-23-2015, 09:53 PM
Hi Rich,

Weird then that it has worked on enraged suspects. What did you get to work on your enraged suspects?

I haven't ran into a case of PCP in a long long time, maybe that's it. Maybe PCP is regaining popularity where you are on duty so you're experience is different. Can you share what you did when someone tried to grab your duty weapon, why, and how?

Michael Hackett
08-24-2015, 02:46 PM
David Sensei,

That is the underlying cause - the Fair Labor Standards Act. Unless the officer is being paid by the agency, the agency is in violation of the FLSA. In most agencies training for officers results in overtime; either overtime for the trainee on his days off or shift off, or his replacement officer.

I've seen a number of officers begin training in Aikido over the years, only to drop out, usually before their first testing. Most are looking for a quick fix and that ain't Aikido. Bob Koga's Practical Aikido was a potential solution, but required the agency to pay tuition, room and board and overtime to attend the four, forty hour classes. If the officer chose to attend on his own dime, it was pretty expensive. Then, of course, the trained officer had to practice, practice, practice.

In my view LEOs would be very wise to train in Aikido. It isn't quick, it isn't easy, but it is effective and efficient in today's law enforcement climate.

08-24-2015, 02:58 PM
Hi Mike,

I couldn't agree more with you.

That's part of the larger society too, maybe. This idea of and need for "quick fixes." Thinking out loud: I'm not sure that is satisfied by any art, not really, not when sport isn't your aim. Heck, some muscle conditioning alone just takes decades of training. It's a sad state we are heading toward. Surely we will all pay the price as a society one day, perhaps soon, for dismissing so easily the need for self-discipline and commitment.

Be well,