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akiy
02-04-2015, 09:16 PM
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Here's a historical Aikido video of Kisaburo Osawa (9th dan) in 1968 teaching at Aikikai Hombu Dojo.

From the video's description:
Filmed in 1968 by Mr. Pierre Holzacker at Aikikai Hombu Dojo (Tokyo)

From Wikipedia: Kisaburo Osawa Sensei (大澤喜三郎 Ōsawa Kisaburō), (1910 - May 26, 1991) was an influential aikido teacher who taught for many years at the Aikikai Hombu Dojo and was a close advisor to 2nd Doshu Kisshomaru Ueshiba. Born in Kumagaya, Saitama prefecture, Japan, he started practicing judo at the age of 17 in order to fortify his body. In 1939 he was introduced to Morihei Ueshiba O-Sensei and entered the Kobukan dojo (O-Sensei's dojo in Tokyo). He became one of the most important and influential aikido teachers during the 1950s to 1970s, being the director of the Aikikai Hombu Dojo for many years until 1986 when he was replaced by O-Sensei's grandson and present doshu, Moriteru Ueshiba. He held the rank of 9th dan. His son, Hayato Osawa Sensei (b. 1951) is currently a prominent Hombu Dojo shihan.

This film was discovered in Israel in 2014 by Ms. Carole Habib - daughter of Pierre Holzacker - French Air France pilot who practiced Aikido with his wife Esther in France in the 1960'. Pierre and Esther Holzacker were students of the Late Tsuda Itsuo Sensei.

What are your thoughts on this video?

-- Jun

tarik
02-10-2015, 10:13 PM
No kuzushi.

Alex Megann
02-11-2015, 07:53 AM
No kuzushi.

I see quite a lot, given his "standard" Aikikai lineage. OK, it doesn't look like Sagawa- or Horikawa-lineage Daito Ryu, but he's certainly not running around his ukes...

For a start, around 0:23 I see disruption of uke's posture as soon as Osawa starts to do the "correct" kokyuho.

Alex

tarik
02-16-2015, 12:00 PM
I see quite a lot, given his "standard" Aikikai lineage. OK, it doesn't look like Sagawa- or Horikawa-lineage Daito Ryu, but he's certainly not running around his ukes...

For a start, around 0:23 I see disruption of uke's posture as soon as Osawa starts to do the "correct" kokyuho.


True he is not running around his uke. However, kuzushi, as I understand it, is not simply a disruption of posture, but destabilization of structural integrity, meaning uke is unable to remain standing in place without moving their feet to recover. Uke here, even after 0:23 does not have to move their feet to recover their posture or balance, but continues to wait respectfully for the technique to continue to unfold.

If kuzushi were involved, I would expect to see uke beginning to recover to renew their attack or connection and then for tori to finish the technique by fitting to that recovery and either redirecting or interrupting it. Instead, for just about every attack, I see uke waiting patiently while the technique is fully executed.

nikyu62
02-16-2015, 07:18 PM
Very compliant ukemi.