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Patwren
01-17-2015, 08:35 AM
i have frequent problems with bruising of wrists, hands, thumb tendinitis from techniques being performed with vise like grips. I have tried wrapping wrists with boxers tape and wearing biking gloves with padding on top of hands. This has not prevented injury and I am discouraged. I am 1st kyu rank and a female age 65. I've also had neck injury and elbow tendinitis. i fear remaining in this dojo and more serious injury or continuation of same issues. Teachers aware but has not resulted in much help for me. The style is Iwama.

Malicat
01-17-2015, 08:43 AM
i have frequent problems with bruising of wrists, hands, thumb tendinitis from techniques being performed with vise like grips. I have tried wrapping wrists with boxers tape and wearing biking gloves with padding on top of hands. This has not prevented injury and I am discouraged. I am 1st kyu rank and a female age 65. I've also had neck injury and elbow tendinitis. i fear remaining in this dojo and more serious injury or continuation of same issues. Teachers aware but has not resulted in much help for me. The style is Iwama.

Have you talked to your training partners directly? We have a joke in my dojo that you can tell from my bruises if you are doing the technique properly, because I bruise so easily. But I have found it's easier to just deal with partners one at a time and explain that if they are having to grip me that tightly, they're probably already doing the technique wrong. Granted, my Sensei totally would have taken care of it if I asked him to, but for me at least, this is one of those situations where I would prefer to turn it into a training lesson.

--Ashley

Patwren
01-17-2015, 09:32 AM
Yes. We have small group. Many men had to drop out due to injuries. (More severe). Vice grips are applied by teachers also. I will try to stay with this dojo if issues are seriously addressed. I'm up soon for Shodan. I have experienced techniques in other dodos where style is more flowing and safe and just as effective. When we practice we are encouraged to do the techniques "harder and faster". From what I've read this leads to increased risk for injuries

Janet Rosen
01-17-2015, 12:09 PM
Pat, to put it bluntly, there are dojos that have a culture that fosters injuries and there are many many dojos that DO NOT. And it does not necessarily have to do with "style" - flowing vs. more static - but with an attitude. I found out something about this doing my knee injury survey 14 yrs ago and I have to say that the fault lies in the dojo culture created and maintained by dojocho. GET OUT.

lbb
01-17-2015, 02:43 PM
Being up soon for shodan is the worst possible reason to stay somewhere you shouldn't be. The image of a donkey chasing a carrot dangling in front of his nose comes to mind...right over a cliff...

Dan Rubin
01-17-2015, 02:45 PM
i fear remaining in this dojo....

That's a hell of a statement. Take Janet's advice.

Patwren
01-17-2015, 04:39 PM
I appreciate the input from fellow practitioners. The dojo I am going to switch to I went to a class to check it out and talk to Sensei. He never has these kind of injuries and I loved his class. I didn't have to wrap my wrists! I love Aikido and want to continue in a safe dojo. Even if the Shodan will take longer. It's all about the journey and now since I visited other dojo I know that injury is NOT the norm in Aikido. Pat

Janet Rosen
01-17-2015, 05:56 PM
Please stay in touch along your path! Happy keiko.

Patwren
01-18-2015, 08:17 AM
Switching will involve a one hour drive each way but I believe will be worth it. Also they have zazen before class once a week and I am a Zen practioner.