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genin
07-25-2012, 08:15 AM
In the wake of the Aurora movie theatre shooting, AMC theatres announced that it would no longer allow masks or fake weapons. REAL firearms, however, are still permitted (based on conceal and carry laws and the 2nd Ammendment).

Malicat
07-25-2012, 08:28 AM
In the wake of the Aurora movie theatre shooting, AMC theatres announced that it would no longer allow masks or fake weapons. REAL firearms, however, are still permitted (based on conceal and carry laws and the 2nd Ammendment).

Based on how difficult it is to get a concealed carry permit, I am fine with this. The type of person that is going to shoot up a movie theatre is not the type of person that is going to spend the time and effort necessary to get a concealed carry permit. Granted, one of the best things about going to the midnight showing of Batman in my own hometown was seeing all the costumes, so losing that makes me sad.

genin
07-25-2012, 08:56 AM
Based on how difficult it is to get a concealed carry permit, I am fine with this. The type of person that is going to shoot up a movie theatre is not the type of person that is going to spend the time and effort necessary to get a concealed carry permit. Granted, one of the best things about going to the midnight showing of Batman in my own hometown was seeing all the costumes, so losing that makes me sad.

Yea, that's kind of my point. The new "restriction" would do nothing to prevent something like this from happening. It's just AMC's way of acting like they are doing something meaningful in the wake of this tragedy. But the reality is that it will just make movie going less fun for the general public while doing little in the way of preventing gun violence, since guns are STILL allowed in the theatres.

lbb
07-25-2012, 09:30 AM
Do you believe that if AMC had a policy that said, "Sorry, no firearms allowed in our theaters", that this wouldn't have happened? It's not as if the guy asked permission. Maybe if the policy was in place, an usher could have just said, "Sir? Excuse me, sir?" Oh wait, they don't have ushers any more. Never mind.

The perpetrator in this case isn't talking. Very little is known of his methods and nothing of his motives. We'll need more data points before we can figure out what, if anything, might have prevented this.

genin
07-25-2012, 09:54 AM
Do you believe that if AMC had a policy that said, "Sorry, no firearms allowed in our theaters", that this wouldn't have happened? It's not as if the guy asked permission. Maybe if the policy was in place, an usher could have just said, "Sir? Excuse me, sir?" Oh wait, they don't have ushers any more. Never mind.


I was waiting for someone else to point that out as well. It's not like a sign saying "No spree shooters allowed on premises" would've stopped the guy. Which kind of illustrates the futility of any policy banning real guns or replica guns.

Come to think of it, I can see how someone walking in to a theatre carrying a plastic gun might cause undue panic and concern, so I guess the policy change does make sense. The costume ban, not so much. I mean, if some twisted psychopath dreams up an elaborate scheme like this, we can't necessarily change the world in response to it. This was a random unpredictable incident that would likely never happen again. Which is why banning cosplay seems like a bit of an overreaction.

Malicat
07-25-2012, 10:46 AM
Come to think of it, I can see how someone walking in to a theatre carrying a plastic gun might cause undue panic and concern, so I guess the policy change does make sense. The costume ban, not so much. I mean, if some twisted psychopath dreams up an elaborate scheme like this, we can't necessarily change the world in response to it. This was a random unpredictable incident that would likely never happen again. Which is why banning cosplay seems like a bit of an overreaction.

The issue stems from the PR nightmare AMC is currently facing. Now when someone thinks of AMC theatres, they aren't thinking of good times and dating, and popcorn and movies, they're thinking of a spree killer who managed to murder 12 (?) people and wound dozens of others. AMC had to do something quickly to prove that their theatres are safe. Obviously this doesn't make an AMC theatre any safer or less safe than they were 2 weeks ago, but it helps in the mind of the public. The average human being also realizes that the venue doesn't matter, but to this day, when you hear "Clock Tower" do you think of the physical object, or do you think of the Charles Whitman shooting from 1966? AMC is just trying to break that association with their brand as quickly as possible.

I'm annoyed, yes, but I understand why they are doing it.

--Ashley

Chris Evans
07-25-2012, 11:02 AM
In the wake of the Aurora movie theatre shooting, AMC theatres announced that it would no longer allow masks or fake weapons. REAL firearms, however, are still permitted (based on conceal and carry laws and the 2nd Ammendment).

Good: ".... REAL firearms, however, are still permitted (based on conceal and carry laws and the 2nd Ammendment)..."

I'd feel safer going to a movie house where Constitutional Carry or Shall Issue Carry is the law of the land.

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