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Nozza74
03-15-2012, 09:46 AM
Nikyo

how powerful this Nikyo is from so little movement of your wrist once applied which i have felt during a randori recently i was very lucky as there was a loud pop cracking sound some short pain :uch: as i went to one knee phew nothing broken !!!

Janet Rosen
03-15-2012, 10:40 AM
It is always possible that a very powerfully and quickly applied nikkyo COULD rupture a tendon, which makes a popping sound.
This is why in the dojo, where we want our partners to come back and train with us the next day, it behooves us to apply it slowly until we each know each other's tolerances.

JJF
03-16-2012, 04:36 AM
Graham: good to hear that you didn't get a broken wrist. I think Janets advice is great BTW so if anything suggests you have a ruptured tendron please see a doctor. A few weeks away from practice is far better than a lifetime of injury.

I find that nikyo is the greatest technique for teaching us to feel and adapt to pain. It can be intense and especially for beginners it is very painfull. as you get better your body will react to the little signs of an aproaching nikkyo and will try to absorb the power through posture change and relaxing the muscles. Now if we can only apply this feeling to the rest of the body all the time... ;)

Nikkyo between beginners is like two people yelling at each other - between more experienced aikido ka it can be like a suttle debate where the powerful arguments are just hints to read between the lines. (credit for this mental picture to my former dojo-mate Jens. A great aikido-kan and an even greater teacher)

JJ

Janet Rosen
03-16-2012, 01:36 PM
Yes - I add that learning to relax and breath into nikkyo has been an unexpected "off the mat" aikido benefit in that my ability to accept pain and not add tension or anxiety to it has been greatly improved.

Nozza74
03-17-2012, 03:18 AM
Dear Janet/JJ

I thank you very much for your advice which i will definitely take on board, my relaxation and subtle feeling in technique posture etc i know will come with time. I wont let this little hiccup stop my love and enthusiasm for aikido and as the old saying goes if you fall of the horse while learning you get straight back on ( as long as its not causing any injury) .
I look forward to hearing from you both again in the near future be safe and be well .

Dormo arigato gozaimashita

graham .