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Alec Corper
10-18-2011, 06:59 AM
Hello All,
I want to give a brief report on the seminar I just attended with Dan.
OK, first off he can walk his talk. He can do what he says he does, his theory is sound and tallies with everything i have ever learnt about IT, his pedagogy is excellent, so he can teach what he can do, he can fight with it, and in gentle sparring (for the most part;-)) he let me feel what he could do. His breadth of knowledge concerning martial arts is clear, and to top it all, he is a lot of fun to train with.
I consider him a martial arts brother and would train with him any chance I got, and I would advise others to do the same. he has got something to offer the Aikido world and for those who are not ossified or fantasizing, you owe it to yourselves to touch hands with him before offering keyboard BS.
respect, Alec
P.S.
I know this tends not to count on the Internet but I have almost 20 years in Aikido and almost 35 in Budo, so I have some criteria to compare with.

robin_jet_alt
10-18-2011, 07:10 AM
Hello All,
I want to give a brief report on the seminar I just attended with Dan.
OK, first off he can walk his talk. He can do what he says he does, his theory is sound and tallies with everything i have ever learnt about IT, his pedagogy is excellent, so he can teach what he can do, he can fight with it, and in gentle sparring (for the most part;-)) he let me feel what he could do. His breadth of knowledge concerning martial arts is clear, and to top it all, he is a lot of fun to train with.
I consider him a martial arts brother and would train with him any chance I got, and I would advise others to do the same. he has got something to offer the Aikido world and for those who are not ossified or fantasizing, you owe it to yourselves to touch hands with him before offering keyboard BS.
respect, Alec
P.S.
I know this tends not to count on the Internet but I have almost 20 years in Aikido and almost 35 in Budo, so I have some criteria to compare with.

Thanks Alec,

It is nice to hear a first hand account. I hope I have the chance to train with him some day.

TimB99
10-18-2011, 12:59 PM
Thanks Alec,

It is nice to hear a first hand account. I hope I have the chance to train with him some day.

Yes. Do. Please do.

I agree with everything Alec has said, and then some.

I mean, I can't say I've had the extensive background and experience Alec has had (if he had five years more under his belt, his martial arts experience would be as old as I am now), but man did Dan deliver.
Really, it did something to me. It struck a chord. Many, many times.

And good lord, not only was the martial arts stuff great, I never expected Dan to be such a sweetheart (I know, I was kinda surprised, having read all the flamewars on here O_o), nor did I expect him to be such a downright funny guy. I can honestly say that I've never had so much fun in a seminar. Ever. I've laughed my arse off multiple times. Honestly dude, just meeting the guy will give you your money's worth :p

I honestly felt like shite knowing that I couldn't attend the two days of extra training after the seminar. I'm so jealous of the rest of da club ;) .

So yeah.. Spring can't come soon enough for me..

Errr.. I think everyone gets the message.. XD

Have a nice day and stuff,

Tim

robert72
10-18-2011, 03:42 PM
Hello All,
I want to give a brief report on the seminar I just attended with Dan.
OK, first off he can walk his talk. He can do what he says he does, his theory is sound and tallies with everything i have ever learnt about IT, his pedagogy is excellent, so he can teach what he can do, he can fight with it, and in gentle sparring (for the most part;-)) he let me feel what he could do. His breadth of knowledge concerning martial arts is clear, and to top it all, he is a lot of fun to train with.
I consider him a martial arts brother and would train with him any chance I got, and I would advise others to do the same. he has got something to offer the Aikido world and for those who are not ossified or fantasizing, you owe it to yourselves to touch hands with him before offering keyboard BS.
respect, Alec
P.S.
I know this tends not to count on the Internet but I have almost 20 years in Aikido and almost 35 in Budo, so I have some criteria to compare with.

Hi Alec,

Thanks for that " gentle sparring" Dan dit not blow you away within one second (or maybe hŤ was just kindly:D ) so... Thanks for that, it gives me ŗ little hope... That maybe one day....I can do..SOMETHING!!

Regards Robert

woudew
10-18-2011, 04:08 PM
:eek: Darn Robert, what a surprise seeing you here :p

Alec, it was great training with you also. I hope we can do that again soon.

TimB99
10-18-2011, 05:17 PM
I mean, I can't say I've had the extensive background and experience Alec has had (if he had five years more under his belt, his martial arts experience would be as old as I am now), but man did Dan deliver.



Whoops.. Meant to say his martial arts experience would be twice as old as I am now

So yeah.. Geez.. Learn to type, Tim :freaky:

woudew
10-20-2011, 01:06 AM
A small review from me:

We have started where we had left in May. After a quick review of the seminar in May, we were shown what we would be doing this seminar. Most of the attendees were also present during the first seminar. Those who werenít, were struggling sometimes a little bit to catch up, but, due to the open atmosphere and Danís teaching skills, they were able to follow the rest of the seminar.
Dan was talking more in concepts now and showed us exercises to feel and train these concepts. Dan was always present to assist and/or point out flaws. One of the great things of working with Dan is, when you make mistake, he will tell it to you and then immediately tell you how to correct it.

All in all, we have learned (again) a lot and Dan left us more than enough stuff to work upon.
I am already looking forward to our third seminar.

Ernesto Lemke
10-22-2011, 12:34 PM
I'm a painter and teacher by profession. Six years ago I took part in the establishment of an innovative schoolconcept that radically and completely challenged the status quo. In a nutshell, we turned the classical vertical schoolstructure into a horizontal structure.
The project was met with great opposition, jealousy and outrage. At the same time it made possible what seemed impossible: We got young people to become more self-motivated, more self-aware and more considerate then most of their junior peers that habituated the vertical schoolstructures. We crossed and widened boundaries and opened doors long thought shut. We didn't set out, out of a desire to altar or reform the status quo, but we did hope that some might find value in what we did. Not by the concept itself, but by showing whatever merit we could bring forth. And though it has been and still is an extremely bumpy road, we sure as hell did produce outstanding results.

Within the aikido community, Dan is a nobody. He holds no high ranking (far as I'm aware of) in the sense of being able to use that as the type of title that is so commonly regarded as THE recognition of ones abilities or achievements. Hierarchically speaking, he is not a shihan of sorts. Training with him in that sense, is like training with one of the boys except for the fact, it's not. If we where to measure things both on a technical and teaching ability scale, Dan might well outrank many a Shihan. A bold statement perhaps, but, as Dan pointed out himself (perhaps too many times now so let's finish this ones and for all) he IS teaching shihans. Not one, not two, but several. Shihans and other very high ranking budo (not just aikido) people who feel themselves drawn to whatever it is he possesses and they too want to acquire.
Let's ponder on that a little. For what are the ramifications of this fact? Shihans training with a nobody? Thatís quite uncommon isnít it? What did they find lacking in the first place? And what compelled them to rely on the guidance of a nobody? Is it a comfortable place for them to reside? For with the exception of Bill Gleason, no mention of this is made public or shouted out loud. Why not?

A lot of talk and speculation has been devoted to the supposed skills of Dan Harden. He is as guilty for lighting the spark of fascination regarding his point of views on the topic of IP/Aiki (and the controversy hat surrounds it) himself, as are the parties that have debated the topic and at times even his person. There seems to be a mixture of fascination and skepticism, of disbelief and outrage, of desire and doubt, when it comes to IP/Aiki. Nonetheless, at the heart of spreading the word out, amongst others stands Dan. Iím still not quite sure if he can actually see how others may perceive his posts. Especially when reading the sentiments of those whoíve met him, and the need they felt to convey that he is a very nice and approachable person in person. And he is. That, amongst many other things.

An average seminar day with Dan Harden:
How comfortable would you feel if you went to a seminar without wearing your much treasured keiko gi and or hakama? How would you feel when there is no ritual, no sign that class started, or physical placing that sets apart the teacher from the students? How would you feel if the person teaching allows you to put your hands all over him (all over? Yes, all over!) so he could make you actually feel what he is doing whilst telling you what heís doing and how you should do it yourself? How would you feel if that person could convincingly replicate most of the same feats the founder of this art was known for? How would you feel if that person not needed to show off but sincerely enjoyed the marvel of it himself but was also willing to teach you to do it yourself? How would you feel that even though he outclassed all attending, he was curious to receive feedback on how he was conveying his knowledge? ďDid it make sense? What about questions?Ē Would you feel comfortable missing out on the distance that many a Shihan have assumed? Placing themselves safely on some distant shore.

I think the budo world at large underestimates the ramifications of the events that are currently taking place. I think it is unprecedented, unheard off and maybe even almost unequaled.

Though only time will tell, Dan will not be doing this seminar format thing till Kingdom come. Those with the urge to continue debating him online out of a need to validate or invalidate his skill will miss out. Besides, I agree with Danís sentiment that itís not about him but about the work. It helps, of course, and there is no escaping the fact that it is his person that is making this possible. I am not saying nor suggesting that Dan is some God-like figure nor that he is Ďthe only one.í He is a very down to earth person who just happened to have the good fortune, perseverance, intelligence and innate talent and desire to both acquire IP/Aiki and also teach it the way he does.
Without question, he could make a small fortune if he where to commercially approach it. We are lucky he isnít.

Personally, I feel privileged to have had exposure to his teachings. I actually don't want to encourage more people to start attending his seminars for quite frankly, that would mean less time for me. Let us also not forget Danís students who are missing out on their teacher on a regular basis due to the demands and growing desire stemming mostly from the aikido community. Time is scarce. But may the prospect of Dan having ever more little time become fact, I would feel saddened not by missing out on Dan as one who is teaching a tremendously valuable treasure, I would miss out on a friend. Luckily I donít foresee that happening all to soon.

The non-believers and skeptics need not worry. This post wasnít for you anyway. I have no desire to convert or argue. Iíd rather train and exchange info with my fellow IP/Aiki trainees.
All I have left to say to Dan is: Goede Genade!
:)

Nicholas Eschenbruch
10-22-2011, 12:41 PM
Great post Ernesto. I feel the same and I hope I can be there again next time.

Alec Corper
10-22-2011, 01:08 PM
Yes, there are quite a few of us out here, still doing Aikido but concerned about what has been lost. When someone like Dan ( and Akuzawa) come along it is a mystery to me that people don't find out for themselves. However, I'm with Ernesto on this the less, people are willing to see their own limitations the better is the opportunity for those of us with nothing to lose, so please don't get too interested ;)

TimB99
10-22-2011, 01:23 PM
Now that's what I call compliments to the chef!

Goeie genade, indeed...

Ernesto Lemke
10-22-2011, 03:24 PM
Hey Nicholas! Thanks for the wine bud! Dan and I enjoyed it very much :D Be there next time dude! Spring 2012...

Ernesto Lemke
10-22-2011, 03:43 PM
@ Alec, I solved my pole problem (yes viagra helps I know hahaha...sigh) but would still be interested in what you may find out.

@ Tim, hope things work out for you wherever the hell your back at. Where was that again? We'll be organizing some get togethers before the spring so if you're interested, drop me a PM. I'll send word out in any case when things work out.

Chris Li
10-22-2011, 04:14 PM
Within the aikido community, Dan is a nobody.

Don't worry Dan, I'm sure that you're something to somebody...somewhere.... :)

Best,

Chris

Ernesto Lemke
10-22-2011, 04:27 PM
:D

Henk
10-22-2011, 07:44 PM
I completely agree, Ernesto: ggoeie ggenade......:cool::)

TimB99
10-23-2011, 04:24 AM
@ Tim, hope things work out for you wherever the hell your back at. Where was that again? We'll be organizing some get togethers before the spring so if you're interested, drop me a PM. I'll send word out in any case when things work out.

I live near Breda, so my situation can be described as such: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Mn_GHPETaU :p
And sure, I'd love to come round again :)

Dave de Vos
10-23-2011, 06:07 AM
I live near Breda, so my situation can be described as such: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Mn_GHPETaU :p
And sure, I'd love to come round again :)

I live fairly close to Breda. Perhaps we can meet up to compare notes and suck together?

Ernesto Lemke
10-23-2011, 06:16 AM
Now now DaveÖby the man a drink first.
:D

Dave de Vos
10-23-2011, 06:25 AM
Now now DaveÖby the man a drink first.
:D

Hmm, we might get some strange looks if we start doing our silly walks in a bar ;)

Dave de Vos
10-23-2011, 08:27 AM
For those of you unfamiliar with silly walks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZlBUglE6Hc

gregstec
10-23-2011, 10:55 AM
For those of you unfamiliar with silly walks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZlBUglE6Hc

I have seen some of those 'ashi' movements in various Aikido dojos I have visited :D

Greg

woudew
10-25-2011, 02:08 AM
So here i have this thought: how about we (as in all participants of Dan's seminar) set up a date so we can train together and re-live Dan's seminar once more?

I still need (loads of) time to go over all the exercises Dan gave us, study them and then also learn how to do them well.
So I would suggest we take a Sunday and train all day. We can do this of course in our dojo in Zwolle and go over all the exercises. If we like it, we might even consider doing it on a more regular base.
For now I had 27th November or 11th December in mind. As I have little kids 4th December is out of the question ;)

You can let me know what you think of this idea, either through PM or you can send me an e-mail. I guess most of you do have my email address.
I hope we can work something out so we can prepare ourselves for Dan's third seminar.

Alec Corper
10-25-2011, 03:12 AM
Hey Walter,
Nice idea, count me in. 27th Nov. is good, but I can make the 11th as well.
regards, Alec

TimB99
10-25-2011, 12:43 PM
I live fairly close to Breda. Perhaps we can meet up to compare notes and suck together?

Sounds like a plan! :)

So here i have this thought: how about we (as in all participants of Dan's seminar) set up a date so we can train together and re-live Dan's seminar once more?

I still need (loads of) time to go over all the exercises Dan gave us, study them and then also learn how to do them well.
So I would suggest we take a Sunday and train all day. We can do this of course in our dojo in Zwolle and go over all the exercises. If we like it, we might even consider doing it on a more regular base.
For now I had 27th November or 11th December in mind. As I have little kids 4th December is out of the question ;)

You can let me know what you think of this idea, either through PM or you can send me an e-mail. I guess most of you do have my email address.
I hope we can work something out so we can prepare ourselves for Dan's third seminar.

Sounds like a plan! :p

Thomas Campbell
10-25-2011, 12:49 PM
That kind of follow-up is essential to success with this kind of training. It's all too easy to delude yourself that you are "getting it" in solo training. A reality check working with other folks provides useful steering for your solo practice and is an encouragement to maintain the discipline of practice. Best wishes for regular get-togethers and success in maintaining the Six Harmonies of Suckitude:

I suck
You suck
He/she sucks

We suck
You (all) suck
They (all) suck

Together!

Dave de Vos
10-25-2011, 02:08 PM
Hi Walter,

Nice :)
27 november is still empty in my agenda, 11 december isn't.

Dave

woudew
10-26-2011, 02:17 AM
I have to check which date is best suitable for most.

I will let you know as soon as possible

Marc Abrams
10-26-2011, 08:27 AM
Hi Walter,

Nice :)
27 november is still empty in my agenda, 11 december isn't.

Dave

Dave:

Why don't you guys practice funakogi undo across the pond and train with Dan in New York on 12/11 ;) .

Marc Abrams

woudew
10-26-2011, 08:37 AM
Dave:

Why don't you guys practice funakogi undo across the pond and train with Dan in New York on 12/11 ;) .

Marc Abrams

Don't temp me :D

12/11?

you mean 11-12?
:p

Marc Abrams
10-26-2011, 08:51 AM
Don't temp me :D

12/11?

you mean 11-12?
:p

December 9-11, 2011- I know you guys on the other side of the pond like to reverse things:D .

Heck, I'll throw in lodging just see the row boat coming into the harbor..... Seriously, you folks are always welcome & I usually can insure a free place to stay as well!

Regards,

marc abrams

DH
10-26-2011, 12:04 PM
December 9-11, 2011- I know you guys on the other side of the pond like to reverse things:D .

Heck, I'll throw in lodging just see the row boat coming into the harbor..... Seriously, you folks are always welcome & I usually can insure a free place to stay as well!

Regards,

marc abrams
You would love those guys, Marc. Funny as hell, then wham....hard workers. lots of questions, they are also out meeting other IP guys and broadening their view. They fit-in!!
Dan

Marc Abrams
10-26-2011, 12:08 PM
You would love those guys, Marc. Funny as hell, then wham....hard workers. lots of questions, they are also out meeting other IP guys and broadening their view. They fit-in!!
Dan

That's why I invited them!!!!!

marc

woudew
10-26-2011, 12:22 PM
And we drink wine and beer too.

Ps
Marc,
whenever you're in the Netherlands don't hesitate to contact me.
I am sure we can squeeze you in.

Ernesto Lemke
10-26-2011, 01:36 PM
Funny as hell, then wham....hard workers. lots of questions,


This can't be about me. I'm quite the opposite actually or...are you describing me after hours? Chardonnay and, ah, yes, it does fit!
:D

To anyone on the IP wagon: always welcome to come pay a visit, just bring your own wine...

But seriously, anyone in the Netherlands actually really interested in this stuff? Not so much so. Cool..mo' fo' us...
evileyes

woudew
11-01-2011, 10:53 AM
11 december it is (sorry Dave).

Most people opted for that date.
Looking forward seeing you all again.

Dave de Vos
11-01-2011, 01:38 PM
11 december it is (sorry Dave).

Most people opted for that date.
Looking forward seeing you all again.

No problem, I still have some hope that my other appointment on the 11th gets cancelled.

Have fun anyway!

woudew
12-05-2011, 07:07 AM
Just a shameless bump:

Sunday 11 december it is, 10.00 h CET

Same place:
Seikokan Dojo
Basisschool De Klokbeker
IJsselcentraleweg 65
8014 BK Zwolle

Looking forward seeing you all again.

Howard Popkin
12-05-2011, 07:22 PM
I guess I'm a silly American. I thought you guys were famous for beer :)

Allen Beebe
12-06-2011, 09:35 AM
I guess I'm a silly American. I thought you guys were famous for beer :)

You are silly. You are American. And the Dutch do have great Belgian beer! (And a couple of their own too I'm told. :p ). But the incredible cheese that comes with the charming company that comes with the beer is outstanding. Why the Dutch have been known to bring their cheese and other food items with them whilst visiting France . . . :D

(Now you'll have to forgive me. I was up all last night throwing up. Once my stomach settles, I'm hoping to get some sleep. :crazy: )

Ernesto Lemke
12-06-2011, 09:51 AM
Must have been the French cheese, don't mistake blue to always mean tasty...
:)
Get well soon.

Allen Beebe
12-06-2011, 10:04 AM
Must have been the French cheese, don't mistake blue to always mean tasty...
:)
Get well soon.

Thanks Ernesto. I'm confident that I'll be 100% soon. You see, I have this Freesland herbal remedy stuff someone once gave me. It tastes so bad it simply MUST work! ;)

Actually I'm sipping Japanese comfort food before I try getting horizontal again (horizontal wasn't working last night, no need for graphic detail), it is funny how each culture has their "run home to mama" sick dishes.

woudew
12-06-2011, 10:07 AM
(Now you'll have to forgive me. I was up all last night throwing up. Once my stomach settles, I'm hoping to get some sleep. :crazy: )

Are you sure it wasn't the nerves for Sinterklaas?
My youngest daughter had the same issue, all nerves for the big man with the white beard.

Allen Beebe
12-06-2011, 10:11 AM
Are you sure it wasn't the nerves for Sinterklaas?
My youngest daughter had the same issue, all nerves for the big man with the white beard.

Well now that you mention it . . . I left some Beerenburg out for him and now I'm afraid he may NEVER come back . . . :confused:

woudew
12-06-2011, 10:31 AM
Well now that you mention it . . . I left some Beerenburg out for him and now I'm afraid he may NEVER come back . . . :confused:

You have to be afraid that he will be back every week of this year, unless you stop pooring Beerenburg into him.

Allen Beebe
12-06-2011, 10:34 AM
You have to be afraid that he will be back every week of this year, unless you stop pooring Beerenburg into him.

:o

Howard Popkin
12-06-2011, 03:21 PM
You are silly. You are American. And the Dutch do have great Belgian beer! (And a couple of their own too I'm told. :p ).

um....Belgian ?

http://www.heinekeninternational.com/history_page.aspx

woudew
12-06-2011, 03:57 PM
um....Belgian ?

http://www.heinekeninternational.com/history_page.aspx

Um Howard?

Please don't use the H-word here (or anywhere else for that matter)

Howard Popkin
12-06-2011, 04:22 PM
Funny :)

Well, they are famous....but I agree, the Belgians know their stuff when it comes to beer :)

Howard Popkin
12-06-2011, 04:23 PM
and chocolate and waffles,

sense a theme here ?:D

Pauliina Lievonen
12-06-2011, 05:26 PM
With chocolate and waffles and beer and (don't forget fries with mayo!), who needs a government? :D

Btw, looks like I can make it sunday. Yess!
kvaak
Pauliina
...I just realized that I can't actually eat/drink any of those. Hmph. :(

Kevin Leavitt
12-07-2011, 01:24 AM
I wish I could have made it up there. I have to go to Bastogne this weekend for the annual "Battle of the Bulge" march...otherwise I would have asked to come up and train with you guys. Maybe next time.

woudew
12-07-2011, 02:01 AM
Hi Kevin,

first: you're always welcome at our place, so whenever you're around please don't hesitate.
Second: my company is located in Heilbronn and that's not too far away from Stuttgart. Mayve we can work something out.

Tatsushin
12-10-2011, 02:18 AM
Hi Walter,

I will come sunday,but im probably a little later(half an hour)..would de door be open so i can enter the building?

Ernesto Lemke
12-10-2011, 02:38 AM
Do so Walter, just don't mention the move to the secret location :)

Tatsushin
12-10-2011, 03:04 AM
whoaa....ninja-styleee ;-)

woudew
12-11-2011, 11:32 AM
Today we did a recap of a lot of the exercises dan showed us. This was very usefull as every one has a different insight or remembered the exercises better.

All in all a good day with (again) lots of fun :)

We agreed we should do this more often.

Dave de Vos
12-11-2011, 01:53 PM
Today we did a recap of a lot of the exercises dan showed us. This was very usefull as every one has a different insight or remembered the exercises better.

All in all a good day with (again) lots of fun :)

We agreed we should do this more often.

Yes! And I hope I can make it then!

woudew
12-11-2011, 03:01 PM
Me too,

it was worthwhile :)

Tatsushin
12-11-2011, 03:35 PM
Yes it was certainly worthwile and great fun!And a lot of intensity,,i think you could feel people glowing:freaky:

DH
12-12-2011, 07:36 AM
Well, while you idiots were having your fun without me, I was having a blast with your very own Alec Corper here in the states at Marc' s place. And after Saturday night with Alec giving us a single malt tasting lesson with some very fine whiskey ....we were all glowing to.
Bottoms up
Dan

woudew
12-12-2011, 11:02 AM
So, the crossing the pond of Alec had nothing to do with his extended knowledge of whisky?
;)

gregstec
12-12-2011, 11:45 AM
Well, while you idiots were having your fun without me, I was having a blast with your very own Alec Corper here in the states at Marc' s place. And after Saturday night with Alec giving us a single malt tasting lesson with some very fine whiskey ....we were all glowing to.
Bottoms up
Dan

Ah, single malt is an expensive addiction that I am trying to withdraw from - not going very well I am afraid :D

Sorry I missed Marc's - next time for sure.

Greg

stan baker
12-12-2011, 06:39 PM
Try the 18 yr old yamazaki
Japan, they try to be better at everything

stan

Gerardo Torres
12-12-2011, 09:22 PM
Try the 18 yr old yamazaki
Japan, they try to be better at everything

stan
And another recommendation:

http://www.glenfiddich.us/

Salud!

:)

hughrbeyer
12-12-2011, 09:31 PM
Glenfiddich. A very nice scotch in its way, I suppose. If it's the best you can get.

woudew
12-13-2011, 01:14 AM
I am now patiently waiting for this whole thread to explode :D

Walker
12-13-2011, 02:19 AM
I am now patiently waiting for this whole thread to explode :D

For that we serve Tequila!

Marc Abrams
12-13-2011, 07:36 AM
For that we serve Tequila!

Funny you mentioned that.... Alec and I finished last night off with Porfidio single barrel anejo :) :) :) ..

Marc Abrams

gregstec
12-13-2011, 07:49 AM
Glenfiddich. A very nice scotch in its way, I suppose. If it's the best you can get.

That's my entry level signal malt - I prefer Glenlivet French Oak or Macallan 18 yr :)

Greg

Gerardo Torres
12-13-2011, 11:57 AM
That's my entry level signal malt - I prefer Glenlivet French Oak or Macallan 18 yr :)

Greg
Actually that's the one I was thinking about! Glenfiddich is OK entry level but a friend of mine introduced me to Glenlivet and that's what I've been getting (it's fairly easy to find and not that much more expensive).

For anybody interested in some really good rum: :)

Santa Teresa 1796 Ron Antiguo de Solera
http://www.wineglobe.com/bib20.html
http://www.ronsantateresa.com/#productos

Janet Rosen
12-13-2011, 04:51 PM
mmmm.....best rum I ever had was a sipping rum from Nicaragua obligingly provided by a Spanish teacher at SFCC who, being in a cast, I provided rides home to in the late evening after class.....smooth as cognac it was.

hughrbeyer
12-13-2011, 10:20 PM
That's my entry level signal malt - I prefer Glenlivet French Oak or Macallan 18 yr :) Greg

Now you're talking my language. I remarked to my son the other day, "I was looking at the Macallan 18 year but I decided to go with the cask strength instead" and his response was, "You know, Dad, that's a pretty awesome sentence you're rocking there."

To which my reply was, "Yeah, that's why we're broke all the time."

Anybody know the Macduff? A friend served it at Thanksgiving, thereby showing why Thanksgiving is the most awesome holiday ever.

TomW
12-13-2011, 11:10 PM
mmmm.....best rum I ever had was a sipping rum from Nicaragua obligingly provided by a Spanish teacher at SFCC who, being in a cast, I provided rides home to in the late evening after class.....smooth as cognac it was.

That would be Flor de Cana. Smoooooth in deed. :D

Janet Rosen
12-13-2011, 11:35 PM
That would be Flor de Cana. Smoooooth in deed. :D

YES! the class was good (reading and preparing oral reports on Fuentes' "El Espejo Enterrado" - great language practice and actually served as my intro to Seneca) but oh my the rum was even better!

Gerardo Torres
12-14-2011, 06:06 PM
mmmm.....best rum I ever had was a sipping rum from Nicaragua obligingly provided by a Spanish teacher at SFCC who, being in a cast, I provided rides home to in the late evening after class.....smooth as cognac it was.
Hey Janet,

Yes, some of those premium rums are very brandy or cognac-like. The Santa Teresa I linked to is the first (only?) rum made using the "Solera" method of cascading oak barrels. The Pampero Aniversario is not as good as the Santa Teresa but it's OK and more affordable (and comes in a nice leather pouch :) ).

As far as scotch I only knew blends. My friend who moved to Scotland recently introduced me to single malt and now I have to buy more stuff... not good for the wallet. :D

Janet Rosen
12-14-2011, 06:51 PM
Hey Janet,

Yes, some of those premium rums are very brandy or cognac-like. The Santa Teresa I linked to is the first (only?) rum made using the "Solera" method of cascading oak barrels. The Pampero Aniversario is not as good as the Santa Teresa but it's OK and more affordable (and comes in a nice leather pouch :) ).

As far as scotch I only knew blends. My friend who moved to Scotland recently introduced me to single malt and now I have to buy more stuff... not good for the wallet. :D

I had followed the links on your original post - yes, that is most intriguing rum!
As for scotch....I'm sorry, I was the odd one out at many an aikido-l seminar party because to me any differences between these ambrosial single malts they all oohd and ahhd over were, to me, like distinguishing between kerosene and sterno....feh. Y'all can keep it.