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graham christian
05-10-2011, 10:25 AM
Hi folks, did you know that today is international monty python's day? A day for siiliness?

So I propose an argument. I propose that O'Sensei was perfect!

Do you want to argue about it? If so would this be a five minute argument or the full half hour?

Regards.G.

Demetrio Cereijo
05-10-2011, 10:27 AM
I propose that O'Sensei was perfect!

Citation please.

graham christian
05-10-2011, 10:45 AM
Citation please.

Demetrio. It is written in the secret documents of the monster raving loony party of which I am a member and only a chosen few had had the privalige of seeing it.

The party is a religious order from japan called yodaism run by a Master de-gucci.

I met O'Sensei once on his way to Manchuria where he was on a secret mission to buy a parrot.

Regards.G.

Mark Freeman
05-10-2011, 10:49 AM
I met O'Sensei once on his way to Manchuria where he was on a secret mission to buy a parrot.



A Norwegian Blue parrot by any chance?

graham christian
05-10-2011, 10:52 AM
A Norwegian Blue parrot by any chance?

Aha, you were there too. Thought I recognised you. He was also there to learn from their ministry of funny walks. Good for posture.

Mark Freeman
05-10-2011, 11:01 AM
back to the original argument...... He could not be deemed perfect as he had no training in the most deadly and effective martial art of them all Llap Gogh!

http://www.llapgoch.org.uk/

graham christian
05-10-2011, 11:03 AM
Citation please.

Not sure if you know monty python. Here is a sample:

http://youtu.be/kQFKtI6gn9Y

G.

Demetrio Cereijo
05-10-2011, 11:05 AM
Graham,

I believe you are making things up or, alternatively the party you're member is totally fake and they are misguiding you, because:

Everybody knows the religious order from japan is not yodaism but judaism: Proof here: http://www5.ocn.ne.jp/~magi9/isracame.htm

The O'Sensei you met was not the aikido founder but a guy from Cork who was also in Deguchi company

O Sensei's (the japanese guy) mission in Manchuria was not about finding a parrot. His purpose was finding carrots to feed the bunnies.

BTW, you lack chi.

graham christian
05-10-2011, 11:07 AM
back to the original argument...... He could not be deemed perfect as he had no training in the most deadly and effective martial art of them all Llap Gogh!

http://www.llapgoch.org.uk/

Very good. However I can't argue with you any more as you didn't pay!

graham christian
05-10-2011, 11:51 AM
Graham,

I believe you are making things up or, alternatively the party you're member is totally fake and they are misguiding you, because:

Everybody knows the religious order from japan is not yodaism but judaism: Proof here: http://www5.ocn.ne.jp/~magi9/isracame.htm

The O'Sensei you met was not the aikido founder but a guy from Cork who was also in Deguchi company

O Sensei's (the japanese guy) mission in Manchuria was not about finding a parrot. His purpose was finding carrots to feed the bunnies.

BTW, you lack chi.

Not at all.
http://youtu.be/Kkho_TJTC_0

And here's the offshoot:
http://youtu.be/31FFTx6AKmU

He was indeed buying a parrot I have evidence and he was arrested because he got into a fight because someone tried to sell him a dead one.
http://youtu.be/npjOSLCR2hE PROOF.

As far as carrots go wrong again, it is spam:
http://youtu.be/anwy2MPT5RE Proof.

I suggest you research more before coming out with such rediculous comments.

Regards.G.

Demetrio Cereijo
05-10-2011, 12:22 PM
I suggest you research more before coming out with such rediculous comments.

WHAT!!!

You are hereby charged that you did on diverse dates commit heresy against the Real Aikido (TM).

Confess or you'll taste the rack!

mathewjgano
05-10-2011, 12:39 PM
Hmmm interesting food for thought, and though perhaps a bit thin, I couldn't eat another bite!

(oh what the hell)

Mmmmm! Minty!

Mark Freeman
05-10-2011, 12:50 PM
Very good. However I can't argue with you any more as you didn't pay!

Yes I did!

graham christian
05-10-2011, 12:55 PM
WHAT!!!

You are hereby charged that you did on diverse dates commit heresy against the Real Aikido (TM).

Confess or you'll taste the rack!

Oh no! I didn't expect the spanish inquisition. I confess!!!

mathewjgano
05-10-2011, 01:03 PM
Oh no! I didn't expect the spanish inquisition. I confess!!!

No one does. Always look on the bright side of life. (whistles a bit) :)

graham christian
05-10-2011, 01:07 PM
No one does. Always look on the bright side of life. (whistles a bit) :)

Cheers Matthew. That was quite scary. I'll take your advice and go for some fresh air and a funny walk.

Alberto_Italiano
05-10-2011, 01:15 PM
.

The party is a religious order from japan called yodaism run by a Master de-gucci.


Ah, Master De Gucci. I know him, of course. I met him time ago, whe he was instructing me in Italy, since I am sure you know he is a renowed Italian 12th Don.

Actually it's him who put into my silly mind all those preposterous ideas about Aikido being barely usable against groups of folks randoring me with baseball bats.
But gee, he was persuasive!

Since then I have never been the same again, and I started entertaining excruciating doubts about the efficacy of my aikido.

Yet Matser De Gucci reassured me: "Doubt you not. Were you to doubt you not, Aikido yours much better it will be. Be formless and empty you yourself!"

He then said that if I want to reach the true Aikido, I must first pursue enlightenment, which they normally help guys attain by chasing them into dark alleys for excellent public randori demonstrations of their dojo's exquisitely and quintessentially pure Ki-style Aikido. Gratis!

I'm gonna see whether I can find a youtube video of their dojo, and of what they mean when they start their lessons reciting the honourable mantra: "the true Aikido is not the true Aikido. The true Aikido is nameless. Luke, use the Force, use the Force!" (I think he doesn't care whether the Dark Side of it or the bright one - or at any rate he mysteriously didn't mention anything on this momentous account)

mathewjgano
05-10-2011, 01:23 PM
Cheers Matthew. That was quite scary. I'll take your advice and go for some fresh air and a funny walk.

I hear it's good for the posture, but do you see now the violence inherent in the system? On your walk, mind those armed with fresh fruit!!!
p.s. I recommend shooting him and then eating the banana to disarm him!
...oops! Gave away the ancient technique!

graham christian
05-10-2011, 01:29 PM
Ah, Master De Gucci. I know him, of course. I met his time ago, whe he was instructing me in Italy, since I am sure you know he is a renowed Italian 12th Don.

Actually it's him who put into my silly mind all those preposterous ideas about Aikido being barely usable against groups of folks randoring me with baseball bats.
But gee, he was persuasive!

Since then I have never been the same again, and I started entertaining excruciating doubts about the efficacy of my aikido.

Yet Matser De Gucci reassured me: "Doubt you not. Were you to doubt you not, Aikido yours much better it will be. Be formless and empty you yourself!"

He then said that if I want to reach the true Aikido, I must first pursue enlightenment, which they normally help guys attain by chasing them into dark alleys for excellent public randori demonstrations of their dojo's exquisitely and quintessentially pure Ki-style Aikido. Gratis!

I'm gonna see whether I can find a youtube video of their dojo, and of what they mean when they start their lessons reciting the honourable mantra: "the true Aikido is not the true Aikido. The true Aikido is nameless. Luke, use the Force, use the Force!" (I think he doesn't care whether the Dark Side of it or the bright one - or at any rate he mysteriously didn't mention anything on this momentous account)

Look no further Alberto. I have the video here. Part way through you can see some training.

http://youtu.be/jNBNqUdqm1E

That's me in the hat.

Alberto_Italiano
05-10-2011, 01:49 PM
Graham, you look fabulous with that dogi! I want one too! Where have you found it? I am sure my Sensei would be quite impressed when he sees me stepping on the dojo in it!

And I have even better news: I found a video with Master Nick De Gucci! yes!
You will instantly recognize the dojo by the incense they let diffuse in order to make the atmosphere more Ki-oriented. And you will certainly recognize all the most exquisite Judo jargon that is mandatory once there!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxKiK-SeBhE

You can tell him because he is the one illustrating the tanto technique; it's true that he grew slow and a bit sluggish and grumpier over time, but well, you can't be a 12th Don and still be as fast as when you were in your 20ies.

However, of course, that's immaterial, because, needless to say, his technique was for demonstration purposes only.

mathewjgano
05-10-2011, 01:51 PM
On a side note, I've never met Master De Gucci, but my aunt loves his handbags! They make excellent Aikido weapons, and, I hear, were involved in some major battles (neither prewar, nor postwar) as demonstrated here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMqSmiC_xHg

Demetrio Cereijo
05-10-2011, 02:03 PM
Ah, Master De Gucci. I know him, of course. I met him time ago, whe he was instructing me in Italy, since I am sure you know he is a renowed Italian 12th Don.

You mean the Master De Gucci from Milano or the Master De Gucci from Napoli?

graham christian
05-10-2011, 02:11 PM
On a side note, I've never met Master De Gucci, but my aunt loves his handbags! They make excellent Aikido weapons, and, I hear, were involved in some major battles (neither prewar, nor postwar) as demonstrated here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMqSmiC_xHg

Matthew.
Just watched the fruit sketch, hadn't seen that one. 16 ton weight underside, ouch! I must agree though, handbags for multiple attacks.

Janet Rosen
05-10-2011, 02:13 PM
Nobody expects the Aiki Inquisition.

Our main weapons are ki and extension.

Wait....unless they are posture and intent.

Yes our weapons are ki and intent and posturing

(confers)
No ... Our weapons are aikijo and aikiken.

(adjusts hakama)
Nobody expects the Aiki Inquisition.
Our main weapons are...
Oh Hell who wants to go for a beer?

graham christian
05-10-2011, 02:15 PM
Graham, you look fabulous with that dogi! I want one too! Where have you found it? I am sure my Sensei would be quite impressed when he sees me stepping on the dojo in it!

And I have even better news: I found a video with Master Nick De Gucci! yes!
You will instantly recognize the dojo by the incense they let diffuse in order to make the atmosphere more Ki-oriented. And you will certainly recognize all the most exquisite Judo jargon that is mandatory once there!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxKiK-SeBhE

You can tell him because he is the one illustrating the tanto technique; it's true that he grew slow and a bit sluggish and grumpier over time, but well, you can't be a 12th Don and still be as fast as when you were in your 20ies.

However, of course, that's immaterial, because, needless to say, his technique was for demonstration purposes only.

Ooh, ouch! Hardly monty python but point taken.

Alberto_Italiano
05-10-2011, 02:18 PM
You mean the Master De Gucci from Milano or the Master De Gucci from Napoli?

Ah don't even mention both of them in the same line - their dojos are awoved rivals! Master De Gucci from Napoli is a staunch believer of the purest Ki-Aikido, as his video amply demonstrates IMHO, whereas his step-brother, the Master De Gucci in Milano, goes Shodokan.

You have seen Master De Gucci's (in Napoli) style.
See yourself his step-brother Master De Gucci (he is the guy on the left: originally he was Italian, but true Aikido deeply changes persons!) based in Milan and the type of Aikido of his dojo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b50SL6U01o
That's it their iriminage training routine, and it's gonna work if one understands the true meaning of Aikido!

But they look somewhat different in their approach, I think. No wonder there is constant infighting between their Federations to secure more pupils!

Alberto_Italiano
05-10-2011, 02:19 PM
Yes our weapons are ki and intent and posturing

(confers)
No ... Our weapons are aikijo and aikiken.

Ahahahahaha LOL loved that confers line :D

graham christian
05-10-2011, 02:20 PM
Nobody expects the Aiki Inquisition.

Our main weapons are ki and extension.

Wait....unless they are posture and intent.

Yes our weapons are ki and intent and posturing

(confers)
No ... Our weapons are aikijo and aikiken.

(adjusts hakama)
Nobody expects the Aiki Inquisition.
Our main weapons are...
Oh Hell who wants to go for a beer?

Ha, ha. Very good . Very creative.

mathewjgano
05-10-2011, 02:45 PM
Ooh, ouch! Hardly monty python but point taken.

Literally! But just imagine if it had been a bunch of bananas! :uch:

mathewjgano
05-10-2011, 03:49 PM
I think we've answered some serious questions in this thread. We've addressed O Sensei's spiritual influences, brought to light some lesser known ashi sabaki, how to deal with a variety of weapons, touched a little on verbal Aikido, and even determined something about whether the pen is mightier than the sword. I'm afraid this all begs one very serious question though:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWlUu54muOs
:straightf

Maarten De Queecker
05-10-2011, 04:09 PM
Hi folks, did you know that today is international monty python's day? A day for siiliness?

I propose that O'Sensei was perfect!



No he's not.

graham christian
05-10-2011, 04:10 PM
I think we've answered some serious questions in this thread. We've addressed O Sensei's spiritual influences, brought to light some lesser known ashi sabaki, how to deal with a variety of weapons, touched a little on verbal Aikido, and even determined something about whether the pen is mightier than the sword. I'm afraid this all begs one very serious question though:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWlUu54muOs
:straightf

I have the answer.....

http://youtu.be/j1kftCx5-tA

graham christian
05-10-2011, 04:11 PM
No he's not.

Yes he is.

mathewjgano
05-10-2011, 04:53 PM
You're both wrong.

Janet Rosen
05-10-2011, 05:58 PM
I didn't come here for an argument.

Maarten De Queecker
05-11-2011, 09:11 AM
Yes he is.

No, he isn't.

(kinda sad that barely anyone here is getting the joke).

graham christian
05-11-2011, 10:37 AM
No, he isn't.

(kinda sad that barely anyone here is getting the joke).

That's not an argument, it's just a contradiction.

Demetrio Cereijo
05-11-2011, 10:40 AM
No, it isn't.

Janet Rosen
05-11-2011, 11:13 AM
Time up!

mathewjgano
05-11-2011, 04:00 PM
Well, whatever the case, it's clear this is an art of cheese.

graham christian
05-12-2011, 08:30 PM
Time up!

Yep. Monty pythons day is over. Back to reality, or delusion, or truth, or wherever I am.

niall
05-14-2011, 12:05 AM
That's not an aikido licence. That's a dog licence with dog crossed out and aikido written in crayon.

niall
05-14-2011, 07:27 AM
Sorry if that was obscure. I should have included this link. From 3.00.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnq96W9jtuw

abraxis
05-14-2011, 07:56 AM
People, please! Stop arguing and being silly.

You need to agree to look on the bright side...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlBiLNN1NhQ

graham christian
05-14-2011, 10:45 AM
That's not an aikido licence. That's a dog licence with dog crossed out and aikido written in crayon.

Sorry but it sounded a bit fishy to me as the monty pythons international day was over.

However, after being put on the rack by the spanish inquisition I've been made to carry it on for the next month for anyone who feels silly.

So to finish my earlier story of O'Senseis visit to manchuria he also discovered the secret art of projection throwing whilst watching a mongoose fight a python called Monty.

They nicknamed O'Senseis new projection art as Ueshiba's Flying Circus but de-gucci wasn't amused and banned the term.

True Aikido comes from the universal spirit of python.

Regards.G.

Janet Rosen
05-14-2011, 12:14 PM
(ahem)
My theory
(which is mine)
is mine

(...an old MP shtick that struck me as remarkably prescient in terms of Internet arguments...)

abraxis
05-14-2011, 12:54 PM
:hypno: (ahem)
My theory
(which is mine)
is mine
(...an old MP shtick that struck me as remarkably prescient in terms of Internet arguments...)

:confused: :disgust: No it's not.

abraxis
05-14-2011, 01:27 PM
:hypno: :confused: :disgust: No it's not.

I apologize for my most recent rudeness. I am a mere beginner and I forget that what we are involved in is hardly any kind of dance and neither is it a performance or a musical. Our Art derives from the secrets of Budo and is, above all else, a true Martial Art and anything or anyone who attempts to make light of it is more than a bit suspect!

Proof follows below

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol5Dfs7jqFI&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imhrDrE4-mI&feature=related

graham christian
05-14-2011, 03:18 PM
I apologize for my most recent rudeness. I am a mere beginner and I forget that what we are involved in is hardly any kind of dance and neither is it a performance or a musical. Our Art derives from the secrets of Budo and is, above all else, a true Martial Art and anything or anyone who attempts to make light of it is more than a bit suspect!

Proof follows below

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol5Dfs7jqFI&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imhrDrE4-mI&feature=related

Not necessarily. I could be doing it in my spare time.

Never underestimate the power of the dark side.

http://youtu.be/2CLwxObfaNE

G.

abraxis
05-14-2011, 04:29 PM
"When you decide to attack, keep calm and dash in quickly, forestalling the enemy...attack with a feeling of constantly crushing the enemy, from first to last." — Miyamoto Musashi (Book of Five Rings: The Classic Guide to Strategy)

"Not necessarily. I could be doing it in my spare time."--G.Christian (AikiWeb Thread)

But now all bow to King Arthur, warrior son of Uther Pendragon and Ygraine of Cornwall, Knight in the service of God, seeker of the Holy Grail.

"Hellooo!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8yjNbcKkNY&feature=related

Relaxed Aikidoka
09-19-2011, 02:39 PM
*ahem* Allow me to introduce myself. I'm Inspector Fox of the Light Entertainment Police, Comedy Division, Special Flying Squad.

Walter Martindale
09-19-2011, 07:36 PM
Nobody expects the Aiki Inquisition.

Our main weapons are ki and extension.

Wait....unless they are posture and intent.

Yes our weapons are ki and intent and posturing

(confers)
No ... Our weapons are aikijo and aikiken.

(adjusts hakama)
Nobody expects the Aiki Inquisition.
Our main weapons are...
Oh Hell who wants to go for a beer?
(I know this is REALLY late but.....)

Cardinal FANG!
Fetch

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