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05-08-2002, 05:26 PM
Hi guys, Ihave had several conversations over the last few weeks regarding the amount of pemanent Dojos in the UK (I realise that most of the correspondents on these forums are American, however there are some Brits on the boards). It seems that there are not many in the UK compared to the US. I'd just like to know how many there are in the UK. I hope this is not considered a trivial question.
05-08-2002, 05:26 PM
DAMN my spelling!
05-08-2002, 06:39 PM
Even though I live in Australia, the Dojo that I train at is linked To the UKA, they have a full time Dojo In Old Hill. The Address is
227 halesowen rd
Old Hill, west Midlands.
Hope thats what you wanted.
05-09-2002, 07:28 AM
Thanks Scott. Sensei Smith will be teaching at the big three seminar in Lowestoft, he's also taught several courses at our Dojo.An amazing man. The main thrust of my question is how many permanent Dojos are there in the UK? I've asked most of the instructors in our association and they are not sure. What I mean by permanent is that the Dojo is not a church hall/sports centre/rented space shared with others, but is a dedicated Aikido dojo.
Originally posted by Jim ashby
What I mean by permanent is that the Dojo is not a church hall/sports centre/rented space shared with others, but is a dedicated Aikido dojo.
You mean the dojo has bought the building itself and isn't renting? Interesting question. Frankly, even in the United States, I don't know of many dojo like that (where the dojo actually owns the building)...
Maybe I'll make it into a poll question.
05-09-2002, 08:35 AM
There is a permanent Aikido dojo in Nottingham as part of the Shudokan.
You can find it from the Shudokan web site at http://www.shudokan.org.uk/
05-09-2002, 09:29 AM
I think that there is an Iwama dojo near Cambridge (a village called Orwell perhaps). I was told that they do uchi deshi courses, run by a sensei Sargeant, who trained under Saito sensei.
Hope thats correct,
05-09-2002, 10:07 AM
Damn this language! What I mean is that the Dojo is a permanent thing where you don't have to put out mats or clear them away for the next user. I hope I'm making sense, I feel like I'm running this brain in for the dog.
05-09-2002, 10:14 AM
I understood the question.
As far as I am aware, this place is a dedicated building used for the sole purpose of Aikido training.
I re-read my post and it sounded like an endorsement. To clarify, I dont know the guy and tread on a different path - I heard about it while asking about live in courses in the UK.
05-09-2002, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by Jim ashby
Damn this language! What I mean is that the Dojo is a permanent thing where you don't have to put out mats or clear them away for the next user.
I know what you mean. My home dojo (Sheffield Kyogikan) is 'permanent'. We're based in an old industrial workshop, the Trafalgar Works, right in the middle of town.
Its a little basic, but has an excellent 'budo' atmosphere about it somehow. We help make up the rent by sharing the space with a Go Ju Ryu Karate club, and sub-letting to some of the Sheffield University MA clubs. (Who've been getting an extremely raw deal from the University sports centre lately.)
Before moving there we were based in a pre-fab in the grounds of a hospital. (Never needed their assistance, fortunately. :))
Next time we move we're hoping for something a bit bigger. (And showers would be nice.)
05-09-2002, 01:14 PM
You're right, this would make an interesting poll question.
I've been lucky enough to spend all my time in Aikido at permanent dojos dedicated solely to Aikido in New York, Brooklyn, Memphis and Washington. We'll be starting a dojo in Norfolk soon and we never even considered a shared space. I guess we just got used to the luxury.
I suspect, however, that the norm is a shared space where the mats are moved each class. There are several dojos that have been around for 20 years or more that still have to take up the mats after class.
05-17-2002, 12:53 AM
The Keihatsu Aikido club in Milton Keynes, and the Phoenix Aikido Club in Coventry both have permanent dojos.
05-17-2002, 01:05 AM
I just added up my dojo time...
Since I came back from Nam in late 67 until now, I have had only a total of 6 years that I didn't have my own "permanent" dojo where aikido and judo were taught.
Since the early 80's Shinto Muso Ryu jo has been practiced most of the time in my dojo as well.
The dojo has always seemed like home to me. Not a bad place to raise kids either.
05-17-2002, 04:03 AM
Hi Bryan. The Phoenix is where I train and the Keihatsu is affiliated to our Dojo. I travel to train at Stoney Stratford once a month with one of our instructors, Martin Barradell, we're always given a warm welcome and several beers. Several of the "Milton Keynies" train regularly at the Phoenix, in fact, three of them were there last night.The Keihatsu is celebrating its first year anniversary soon, should be a good night out. Anyone know where there are any other permanent Dojo's in the uk?
05-17-2002, 04:44 AM
I was a Milton Keynie for 9 years, although I was part of the Seishin half, also affiliated to Phoenix until recently.
I now live, work and train in Tokyo. Please give my best wishes to Tom and Rick, they both know me quite well.
05-17-2002, 08:01 AM
How long ago did you move to Japan? If you know Tom and Rick, we may have met sometime. I have been described as a grey-haired Saddam Hussein look alike. I took my Shodan in Belgium under Sensei Thielemans in 1996, although all of my training had been in Coventry. We used to travel to Brussels for the Dan gradings every september, we now hold them in Coventry, and it's quite an occasion. I'll ask Marianne, Derek and Sally if they can describe you.
05-17-2002, 08:57 AM
I've trained in two permanent dojo in the UK. One in an old converted hanger, the other purpose built in a back garden (yard?).
Every other one has been in a sports hall or community centre.
05-17-2002, 05:47 PM
Only moved here permanently in March last year so there is a good chance I trained with you at Coventry sometime, were you there a few years back when I bought Nakao Sensei from Kobe over to teach on a Sunday? If you go check out the MK web site (www.miltonkeynesaikido.com) and look at the gallery pages in the Seishin section, you will find some pictures of my leaving session, including some of me practicing with Rick:) . There are also one or two of me on our web site here (see my profile). Next time you visit with Marianne et al, say hi from me.
I also remembered last night that I trained with a friend once in a permanent dojo down in Bushy, near Watford. It`s a Yoshinkan club located in an old nissan hut on what looks like an old military campus in the local wood. I can`t remember the name of the club or the address, I was just working in the area at the time, although I am sure that they won`t be hard to find.
Just remembered that there used to be a large one down in Bristol too run by one of the more well known English Sensei, although his name escapes me now, Marianne or Mike may remember, we all went down there a few years back to a seminar with Toyoda Sensei, back when the club was part of the Kai Shin Kai (pre Yama Arashi).
05-18-2002, 06:45 AM
Now I can place you. Last time we trained together for any length of time was at the British Timken summer school. Last we spoke you were into import (export?) of clothes.
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