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Michael Hackett
12-03-2009, 01:34 AM
I just finished watching two full episodes of the A&E Network's new show "Steven Seagal Lawman". For those who haven't followed, Seagal Sensei has reportedly been a Reserve Deputy Sheriff in Jefferson Parish, Louisiana for twenty years. This reality show depicts him working the streets in uniform. He apparently is high ranking as a reserve officer, wearing the two stars of a Deputy Chief. Usually the rank worn by a reserve officer is honorary and he has no authority over regular officers of any rank. The military reserve components are different of course.

Before I go further, I have to admit that I detest reality shows in general and really get my big boy pants in a bunch over reality cop shows. I watched this program simply because I thought it would really be terrible - and it wasn't nearly as bad as I expected. While I doubt I will ever watch again, it showed officers doing their jobs without going overboard, fawning on Seagal Sensei. He seemed genuine in his interest in the profession and in his relationship with the other officers. He said all the right things, and if this is scripted, the scriptwriter certainly read "Municipal Police Administration."

There is a smattering of Aikido shown during each of the two episodes that aired tonight. Nothing on the street, but in the gym and in the academy. If you hope to see Aikido, you will only see a moment or two depicted and then not on the street.

Three things stood out and caused me to yell at the TV as I am wont to do with cop shows. Neither Seagal Sensei nor his partner wear their seat belts although it is the law and the greatest single danger of police work is motor vehicle accidents. Seagal Sensei was riding shotgun and the camera showed him looking out the driver's side throughout the program. The passenger officer "owns" from the middle of the windshield to his side of the car. The driver gets the other half. Lastly, he was shown carrying his flashlight in his strong or gun hand throughout the program.

While I don't recommend it, it probably is worth watching ONCE out of curiosity. YMMV.

DonMagee
12-03-2009, 06:56 AM
All I know is every other line in the dialog was "My extensive martial arts training has allowed me to do ______"

I was waiting for him to go to the bathroom and tell me how his extensive background in the martial arts made that even better then normal people going to the bathroom. That plus the whole slow motion zoom of the 'segal super eyesight' was kinda annoying. Ok not kinda, it was annoying. :D

Fred Little
12-03-2009, 07:40 AM
All I know is every other line in the dialog was "My extensive martial arts training has allowed me to do ______"

I was waiting for him to go to the bathroom and tell me how his extensive background in the martial arts made that even better then normal people going to the bathroom. That plus the whole slow motion zoom of the 'segal super eyesight' was kinda annoying. Ok not kinda, it was annoying. :D

"In my extensive training as a martial artist, I've learned that you have to apply the training everywhere, even in the bathroom. You have to be like the Zen Masters of Archer. They don't pull the arrow, they push it out."

FL

chillzATL
12-03-2009, 07:46 AM
I'm actually looking forward to seeing the show. He'll eventually crank a sankyo on someone!

Michael Hackett
12-03-2009, 09:36 AM
Don, you're right. I had overlooked that line and now it's stuck in my mind forever. Thank you VERY much. In response I will see your "In my extensive martial arts, etc" and raise you Disney's "It's a small world after all....." So there! Just try and get that out your mind now.

Exits, with an evil laugh and mustache twirl....

Keith Larman
12-03-2009, 09:47 AM
"In my extensive training as a martial artist, I've learned that you have to apply the training everywhere, even in the bathroom. You have to be like the Zen Masters of Archer. They don't pull the arrow, they push it out."

FL

Just remember that in my extensive training as a martial artist only true masters know they must aim to the side of the bowl to hit the center drain. The Tidybowl Paradox.

RED
12-03-2009, 09:58 AM
At Winter Camp last month, Sensei, myfiance and Iwatched a Steven Seagal movie in Spanish... sweeet.

JW
12-03-2009, 09:59 AM
Just remember that in my extensive training as a martial artist only true masters know they must aim to the side of the bowl to hit the center drain. The Tidybowl Paradox.

Nice. Now I'm going to think of *that* every time I go to the bathroom at work and see that somebody missed!
--JW

Kevin Leavitt
12-03-2009, 10:56 AM
Don wrote:

That plus the whole slow motion zoom of the 'segal super eyesight' was kinda annoying. Ok not kinda, it was annoying.

What, you mean you can't do this yet? I thought everyone above 5th Kyu had developed this zoom eyesight.

Hmmm, maybe I have such an extensive martial arts background I have forgotten that there are people that can't do things I consider to be normal now.

ninjaqutie
12-03-2009, 11:26 AM
My husband and I were watching these last night. I fell asleep.... he woke me up at one point yelling "He's doing aikido!" I groggily opened up my eyes as my husband proceeded to tell me "That's nikyo, that's kotegaeshi, etc" I eventually got annoyed and told him I knew what he was doing before falling back asleep.

DonMagee
12-03-2009, 02:31 PM
Don wrote:

What, you mean you can't do this yet? I thought everyone above 5th Kyu had developed this zoom eyesight.

Hmmm, maybe I have such an extensive martial arts background I have forgotten that there are people that can't do things I consider to be normal now.

I tried to develop it, but everytime I attempt to train the zooming eyesight with aliveness I just see a REALLY BIG fist punching me in the face :D

lbb
12-03-2009, 02:53 PM
So how long will it be before people start showing up at aikido dojos wanting to learn "that Lawman stuff"?

Keith Larman
12-03-2009, 03:03 PM
So how long will it be before people start showing up at aikido dojos wanting to learn "that Lawman stuff"?

You rang? Oh, ooops, you said Lawman... Sorry...

ChrisHein
12-03-2009, 06:59 PM
So how long will it be before people start showing up at aikido dojos wanting to learn "that Lawman stuff"?

Depends on how well the show is received. From what I saw I think we're in for a long wait...

Kevin Leavitt
12-03-2009, 08:51 PM
I tried to develop it, but everytime I attempt to train the zooming eyesight with aliveness I just see a REALLY BIG fist punching me in the face :D

It takes a while to get the whole timing and distance thing down. It seems like they are coming faster than they really are since your vision zooms in faster than they are moving, but eventually you learn to compensate for the zoom factor. There are some really good kata and exercises you can do to work on this.

Aikibu
12-04-2009, 01:02 AM
Who's Steven Seagal?

William Hazen

Cliff Judge
12-04-2009, 01:15 PM
Seagal is an interesting guy. I think I actually respect him, but whenever I see him in front of the camera he is clearly ACTING like somebody I should respect, and I don't respect that.

"In Zen we still get angry, but then we acknowledge it and let that feeling go. This guy is not a very good Zen practitioner."

Anjisan
12-04-2009, 03:32 PM
Who's Steven Seagal?

William Hazen

I just heard on the radio that Seagal sensei's new show set a record for A&E reality show debuts at 3.5 or 4 million viewers. So I am guessing that there are a few people out there who seem to know. The question then becomes do they know who you or I are--probably not.

Rob Watson
12-04-2009, 06:06 PM
Yawn ... basically a lame episode of 'COPS' - is that redundant? Now, If I can just push it out ...

Aikibu
12-05-2009, 11:00 PM
I just heard on the radio that Seagal sensei's new show set a record for A&E reality show debuts at 3.5 or 4 million viewers. So I am guessing that there are a few people out there who seem to know. The question then becomes do they know who you or I are--probably not.

Well I think I took Ukemi from him once or twice. :D But that was a long time ago and in a galaxy far far way...

William Hazen

Michael Varin
12-06-2009, 03:47 AM
Well, I finally saw the show.

It was about what I expected.

Steven Seagal is an interesting man. I see so much talent (ok, not for acting) and discipline, mastery in fact, but something went wrong somewhere along the line. And I still don't understand why he can't apply some of that discipline and lose some weight.

For what it is worth, I'd like to see him come back to aikido full-time. I think he has a lot to offer.

One thing I will tell you for sure, Seagal can shoot!

Putting a bullet in a bullet hole isn't easy. I've tried many times.

Probably 12 or 13 years ago, I had heard that Seagal was quite the marksman and was talking to my step-father (retired cop/director of the local police academy) about it. He said it's expensive to become a good shooter and a guy like Seagal has the money to do it.

Man, I'll tell you the older I get, the more I realize that guy was right about almost everything!

Ron Tisdale
12-06-2009, 12:46 PM
I take it that the last line of your post refers to your step-father, not Seagal Sensei....
:O
Best,
Ron

mathewjgano
12-06-2009, 12:49 PM
He said it's expensive to become a good shooter and a guy like Seagal has the money to do it.


Why is it expensive to become a good shooter?

Ron Tisdale
12-06-2009, 01:00 PM
Purchasing amo, time at the range. Unless you make your own amo...

Best,
Ron

mathewjgano
12-06-2009, 01:47 PM
Purchasing amo, time at the range. Unless you make your own amo...

Best,
Ron

Well I'm sure Seagal can afford the rising cost of ammo I keep hearing about! I hadn't thought ranges might be expensive. We always just went up into the mountains (30 minute or so drive) so I always think of shooting as relatively inexpensive.
I guess I was just curious if there were costs beyond the basic needs of shooting (ammo, gun and range fees).
That's impressive Seagal shoots so well, but it also makes sense from a certain perspective. I started shooting at 4 years old and my view is that the meditative quality attached to shooting is really quite amazing. Breath, timing and the "squeeze vs. pull" of triggering seems well-suited to budoka.
...In fact, just thinking about it makes me want to go meditate with some cans!:D

Rob Watson
12-06-2009, 04:05 PM
Unless you make your own amo...

1000 rounds a month at ~5 cents a piece (.45 ACP) adds up over the years. Not to mention the time to actually load the rounds. If you cast your own bullets it is not much cheaper but takes even more time.

For each weapon , say 9mm, .45 ACP, plus rifle rounds puts it at ~$150 a month plus range fees (gas for road trips to the 'open spaces') targets, safety gear (it wears out you know), gunsmithing plus time to load up the rounds. Not for the faint of wallet or short of timers.

After a couple of months, or so, dedicated practice single ragged holes at 10-15 feet is not so tough for 6 rounds (unless your weapon is worn). Under stress and return fire ... I'm guessing not so easy but I have yet to try that out. Should only take one on target to get the job done.

Private digs, plentiful cash and abundant leisure time helps considerably in most any pursuit. In my younger days living on the posse ranch (free shooting range) and all the .22 LR I could use I got real good real quick shooting ~500 rds per day for a summer. I was required to clear the grounds of ground squirrels and I dare say the population still has not recovered 30 years hence. Any squirrel that caught my attention and was still for 3 seconds did not make it another day.

OwlMatt
12-11-2009, 05:43 PM
One comment about the seatbelt thing: a lot of law enforcement officers do not wear seatbelts, because their job often requires that they leap out of their vehicles at a moment's notice, and a seatbelt impedes this. My impression is that some cops buckle up when it's time to do high speed stuff and stay unbuckled the rest of the time for very practical reasons.

thisisnotreal
12-19-2009, 11:17 AM
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lbb
12-19-2009, 02:36 PM
Goddamn! It's a jujinage de noel!