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tim evans
08-23-2009, 10:55 PM
By far one of the slikest moves I have seen in my short aikido career go to christiantissier.com click on videos then click on the israeli 2009 seminar the technique at the 3.12 to 3.19 mark is the one I was wondering about ?BTW I know it,s a kaitenage of some sort but the part I,m amazed at is on his tenkan around to throw uke he,s glued to his arm I know I ramble but from a newbies standpoint thats just wicked.:D

raul rodrigo
08-24-2009, 02:41 AM
It's a kaiten nage ura in the style of Tissier's teacher, Seigo Yamaguchi.

sorokod
08-24-2009, 06:36 AM
Kaiten nage ura in Iwama style too.

tim evans
08-24-2009, 06:55 AM
thanks for the name. the tenkan and control is what really impresses me.:D

akiy
08-24-2009, 11:24 AM
Here is a direct link to the specific time in the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMMr22zMpA0#t=3m12s

-- Jun

Rob Watson
08-24-2009, 12:09 PM
That also looks very similar to the way Shibata Ichiro shihan does it. Keeping solid connection with the hand and neck until uke spins away a big deal.

Watch closely and you will see the hand conection breaks away but the neck stays well connected. Maybe 7th dans can get away with that ...

tim evans
08-24-2009, 12:17 PM
Here is a direct link to the specific time in the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMMr22zMpA0#t=3m12s

-- Jun

Thanks Jun for the link

Shadowfax
08-31-2009, 10:58 AM
We have done that one in class a few times. A really cool technique when you get it right.

tim evans
08-31-2009, 05:23 PM
We have done that one in class a few times. A really cool technique when you get it right.

The technique at the 3.28 mark is cool

Carsten Möllering
09-01-2009, 01:38 AM
T Keeping solid connection with the hand and neck until uke spins away a big deal.

Watch closely and you will see the hand conection breaks away but the neck stays well connected. Maybe 7th dans can get away with that ...Well, sure:
Because for kaiten nage ura the contact at the neck is most important and is throwing uke.
The hand connection is just to help.

In kaiten nage omote it's the other way round.

That' how I was taught.

Greetings,
Carsten

Carsten Möllering
09-01-2009, 01:55 AM
The technique at the 3.28 mark is cool
Yes, and when you change the sides for doing soto kaiten nage, the contact at the neck is even more important.
Sometimes you get the other arm very good. Sometimes you don't. But you always get the contact at the neck.

Carsten