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Michael Douglas
02-03-2009, 08:05 AM
I haven't got any, just musing about film footage which might exist of top-level aikidoka in some kind of contentious bout with non-aikidoka.
I have seen ONE, that of Koichi tohei and the big American sort of pushing each other around a bit in a dojo.
You who have also seen it can explain the location and time better than I can.
Hmm... can't find it in the search or youtube right now, maybe someone can jump in and give the link.
(I will later)

So, my request ;

Does anyone have access to film or video of any other such contest, be it pushing, wrestling or fighting and all inbetween?
(Please please do NOT include stories or descriptions of unfilmed bouts)

Carl Thompson
02-03-2009, 09:23 AM
can't find it in the search or youtube right now, maybe someone can jump in and give the link.
(I will later)

Sounds like the "rough and tumble" between Tohei Sensei and Herman which I remember being discussed before here (http://www.aikiweb.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13698&highlight=herman+tohei).

These links to "Rendezvous with Adventure" are currently still active on Youtube:

Part 1
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=-vod1dsj7Ok

Part 2
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=qNOTyUuoomE

Part 3
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=z1mC6XDXL5Y (http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=qNOTyUuoomE)

Everything happens "too darn easily" in part one, the bout between Tohei and Herman is in part two and Lee Green receives technique from Osensei in part three.

Alex Megann
02-03-2009, 10:37 AM
I have seen film of Christian Tissier sparring with a karate practitioner, but since this was at a martual arts demonstration I suspect that it was not 100% "contentious"...

Alex

Tony Wagstaffe
02-03-2009, 11:58 AM
I haven't got any, just musing about film footage which might exist of top-level aikidoka in some kind of contentious bout with non-aikidoka.
I have seen ONE, that of Koichi tohei and the big American sort of pushing each other around a bit in a dojo.
You who have also seen it can explain the location and time better than I can.
Hmm... can't find it in the search or youtube right now, maybe someone can jump in and give the link.
(I will later)

So, my request ;

Does anyone have access to film or video of any other such contest, be it pushing, wrestling or fighting and all inbetween?
(Please please do NOT include stories or descriptions of unfilmed bouts)

Yes thats right...... Looks like Shodokan aikidoka doing crappy randori kyogi.... When it comes down to it, even if a friendly bout you will find that one a hard one as they don't like to be shown up you know..... all the pretty flowing stuff goes out the window......:rolleyes: ;) :D

Tony

Michael Douglas
02-07-2009, 05:39 AM
Thanks for the link to Paul's old post : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvJ3bI-VyDg
Sounds like the "rough and tumble" between Tohei Sensei and Herman which I remember being discussed before here (http://www.aikiweb.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13698&highlight=herman+tohei).

These links to "Rendezvous with Adventure" are currently still active on Youtube:

Part 1
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=-vod1dsj7Ok

Part 2
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=qNOTyUuoomE

Part 3
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=z1mC6XDXL5Y (http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=qNOTyUuoomE)

Everything happens "too darn easily" in part one, the bout between Tohei and Herman is in part two and Lee Green receives technique from Osensei in part three.
From your "Rendezvous" links only part three (which must be manually pasted as your link url dosn't match your intended url) right at the end involves contention ... the aferementioned tussle with Tohei.
Great to post the three parts of that film, thanks again Carl.
Fixed ;
Part 3
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=z1mC6XDXL5Y

observer
02-07-2009, 01:40 PM
Sorry Folks. The King Is Naked!