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BBozkurt
02-06-2002, 07:33 AM
I have been involved aikido about 1 years and i can say that, it's the best way to understand earth,yourself and life. It's not a technique or a sport or any other else, it's a kind of..no no it's not a kind of anything...It's a real DO.

I saw that, wing-tsun has the same way. And they insist on "wing-tsun" is the most logical way to defend and understand your surroundings.

Any other who is involved in this technique. Is there any similarity between two schools.

Chuck.Gordon
02-06-2002, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by BBozkurt

.. aikido ... It's a real DO.

I agree. But for the sake of discussion, how do you classify aikido as a "real" 'do' as opposed to any other Japanese martial system?

I saw that, wing-tsun has the same way. And they insist on "wing-tsun" is the most logical way to defend and understand your surroundings.

Any other who is involved in this technique. Is there any similarity between two schools.

Hmm. I haven't personally studied WT (or Wing Chun, depending on who's school it is). However, my wife, Emily, did spend a year training with some very interesting WC/T folks in Austin Texas before we were married.

My observations of what she learned and of other folks I've interacted with over the years ... WT/C is not very much like aikido at all.

WT/C is Chinese (specifically Southern) and is a punching art, primarily.

Aikido is Japanese, and is primarily a grappling/throwing art.

Philosophically, lots of the WT/C folks I've known would fall into the 'take no prisoners' range. Not all, but the bulk of folks with whom I've trained or talked about the system lean that way.

Aikido spans a broad range of thought, but at the core, especially amongst more recent, and amongst western aikidoka, there's a strong sense of conflict resolution and avoidance of violence.

Chuck

[Censored]
02-06-2002, 12:56 PM
Is there any similarity between two schools.

Yes.

jaemin
02-06-2002, 08:25 PM
One of my teachers, trained Wing Chun, used to teach some arm-works from Wing Chun with aikido techniques. I think it's quite useful and help to do aikido techniques though some people don't like such way. :)

Jaemin

mle
02-06-2002, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by BBozkurt
I saw that, wing-tsun has the same way. And they insist on "wing-tsun" is the most logical way to defend and understand your surroundings.

Any other who is involved in this technique. Is there any similarity between two schools.

I trained in WT for about a year. I already had shodan in aikido at that time.
The two are similar in that they both use the human body in cunning ways to use and overcome incoming attacks.

Philosophy wise, they are largely opposed.
WT originated in street fighting.
Aikido originated in various systems of strategy and tactics. Chinese and Japanese culture are two fairly different things, as well.

People gravitate to the martial arts which serve their natures best.
There is no sense arguing which is best when one person is naturally better at striking and the other at grappling.

I believe that a balanced martial artist studies many things on their path and weaves them together in a Way which suits them.

And a mature martial artist does not feel the need to tell other people they are on the wrong path simply because his or her path is different. (no, you did not, and it is appreciated)

I no longer study WT because I moved away from my teacher, a direct student of LT and Sifu Kernspecht.

I now study a comprehensive budo system which includes more locks, strikes and pins than I feel I'll ever get wrapped around in this lifetime...

Cross-training is good, though. Enjoy. Gain perspective and tolerance.

mle