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04-30-2008, 04:56 PM
AikiWeb Poll for the week of April 27, 2008:

Do you think studying Daito Ryu aiki-jujutsu will help you better understand aikido?

I don't do aikido

Here are the current results (http://www.aikiweb.com/polls/results.html?poll_id=423).

Cast your vote at the top right of this page (http://www.aikiweb.com).

04-30-2008, 05:33 PM
Do you think studying Daito Ryu aiki-jujutsu will help you better understand aikido?
I don't know. But if there was a dojo nearby I would certainly give it a whirl.

04-30-2008, 09:30 PM
I don't know much about it, but if there was a dojo nearby I too would give it a whirl. But it would have to be a good dojo.

Martin Ruedas
04-30-2008, 09:52 PM
Technically, yes.

Chris Parkerson
04-30-2008, 11:17 PM
I am actually doing this thing cattywampus. I know a lot about small circle throwing. I know very little about the larger circles used in Aikido.

It is good to have Moe Stevens helping me on this.

05-01-2008, 08:52 AM
I tried one Daito Ryu lesson and I feel like it could really boost my Aikido if I got into it. I'd consider cross training when I get more Aikido mileage under my belt, but I'm concerned with the joint strain some techniques employ there.

Ron Tisdale
05-01-2008, 08:53 AM
I think it can provide more context for the waza found in Aikido. I also think that unless you start to understand and use what people like Dan, Mike, and Akuzawa are showing, you won't see a big difference in non-cooperative training. Even though the attacks may be more complete, the waza sharper and with some additional depth, it is still very difficult to make them work on larger, stronger, skilled opponants. Especially in free form training.

So yes, I do think it is useful, maybe even greatly desired, but no, I no longer think it is the holy grail... ;)


05-01-2008, 03:02 PM
I agree with Ron, as usual.

I did Kondo line AJJ for two years and found that it really improved my basics. In my aikido lineage, feeling is emphasized more than discrete point teaching, so I would doubtless have benefited from styles oriented this way, Yoshinkan, e.g., or Iwama (and they, I think, would also benefit from more intuitive training on occasion.)

I've also got about 100 hours in Roppokai training with Howard Popkin (see seminar review at http://www.aikiweb.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14382). I'm astounded at the power and subtlety of the art, perhaps what Ron was meant referring Dan, Mike, and Akuzawa, none of whom I've had the pleasure of training with.

So for me, both forms have informed and benefited my aikido.

05-01-2008, 03:28 PM
Absolutely. Training in DR Roppokai been great for my aikido practice. Not even to speak of any technique/movement insights, but even just in the area of perception and intuition for kuzushi it's been a real boon.

The Aunkai excercises I learned from Akuzawa's seminar have also opened up new areas in my aikido movement, but I'm not sure if that can be attributed to DR per se....

Now if only I was skilled enough to use these new ideas and attributes consistently, that would really be something :p

Shannon Frye
05-02-2008, 01:43 AM
I entered aikido with a juijitsu background (although not datio ryu). You can always know the child better by examining the parent.

05-02-2008, 10:54 AM
That's a pretty BIG question for just a "yes/no" answer.

I would enjoy studying Daito Ryu, and I think it would give me a deeper understanding of Aikido's roots, and the idea's behind the techniques.

However I don't think it will make me "better" at Aikido in the way that noncooperative training, or heavy drilling will.

I feel it would give me a better intellectual-theoretical understanding of Aikido.