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osceola
03-25-2008, 04:56 PM
An article on nytimes.com/danbarry tells and illustrates the story of Billy Wolfe, a 15 year old, who has been the target of bullies for 3 years. He is why I have joined this site. Can some one in the Fayetteville, Arkansas area start giving him Aikido training if he is open to it? You might be saving his life as well as others.

gdandscompserv
03-25-2008, 07:34 PM
Sounds like the real problem is with the school administration and school board. I'm all for teaching kids aikido, but it should not take the place of adult supervision and responsibility. Adults need to provide a safe place for kids to be educated. If that's not happening, the adults in that community should be held accountable.

MikeLogan
03-25-2008, 07:48 PM
Direct link (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/24/us/24land.html?_r=1&oref=slogin) and some video of the bus stop attack described: http://video.on.nytimes.com/index.jsp?fr_story=2b8d99d58132e47f766d98495e18e83e5c44a4fcthe adults in that community should be held accountableHence the lawsuit, but it wouldn't hurt the kid to learn how to make himself less worthwhile a target. The trick is whether he opens his mouth about it, which would only serve to draw fire, and maybe a lot. Kids can be vicious. "Bullying" is too innocuous a term anymore.

michael.

erikmenzel
03-26-2008, 03:15 AM
"Bullying" is too innocuous a term anymore.

michael.
A friend of mine came up with the term Social Terrorism

gdandscompserv
03-26-2008, 06:38 AM
Direct link (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/24/us/24land.html?_r=1&oref=slogin) and some video of the bus stop attack described: http://video.on.nytimes.com/index.jsp?fr_story=2b8d99d58132e47f766d98495e18e83e5c44a4fcHence the lawsuit, but it wouldn't hurt the kid to learn how to make himself less worthwhile a target. The trick is whether he opens his mouth about it, which would only serve to draw fire, and maybe a lot. Kids can be vicious. "Bullying" is too innocuous a term anymore.

michael.
Perhaps he should start packin'.

Erick Mead
03-26-2008, 08:20 AM
Direct link (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/24/us/24land.html?_r=1&oref=slogin) and some video of the bus stop attack described: http://video.on.nytimes.com/index.jsp?fr_story=2b8d99d58132e47f766d98495e18e83e5c44a4fc Kids can be vicious. "Bullying" is too innocuous a term anymore.
"Each new generation born is in effect an invasion of civilization by little barbarians, who must be civilized before it is too late." Thomas Sowell.

The"Lord of the Flies" in our midst, apparently.

Ron Tisdale
03-26-2008, 08:43 AM
Perhaps he should start packin'.

I'm sure (I hope) you meant that tongue in cheek. One of the issues we face internationally, nationally, and locally, is the escalation of violence. It is not a small issue...you teach the kid karate/MMA/aikido whatever, he kicks someone's butt, they come back with a gun. Or multiple friends. Or a dufus of a parent with buds along for the ride raid the school cafeteria looking for the target (don't laugh, this just happened recently).

He pulls a gun he goes to jail. Escalating violence in the face of such threats was a time honored way of defending yourself from bullies...they pushed, you hit. Now, the upper limits and the consequences are much different. It really isn't a joking matter...I would hate to be going to school now, faced with the situations kids are facing. Adults need to step up big time.

Best,
Ron (I remember you had some experience in this area with your son, correct?)

gdandscompserv
03-26-2008, 10:15 AM
I'm sure (I hope) you meant that tongue in cheek. One of the issues we face internationally, nationally, and locally, is the escalation of violence. It is not a small issue...you teach the kid karate/MMA/aikido whatever, he kicks someone's butt, they come back with a gun. Or multiple friends. Or a dufus of a parent with buds along for the ride raid the school cafeteria looking for the target (don't laugh, this just happened recently).

He pulls a gun he goes to jail. Escalating violence in the face of such threats was a time honored way of defending yourself from bullies...they pushed, you hit. Now, the upper limits and the consequences are much different. It really isn't a joking matter...I would hate to be going to school now, faced with the situations kids are facing. Adults need to step up big time.

Best,
Ron (I remember you had some experience in this area with your son, correct?)
Yes Ron, it was indeed toungue in cheek. I agree with your statement completely. As I said in my first post; the adults in that community need to step up to the plate and demand safe schools. If they don't stop the violence now it will surely spread like cancer into their community at large.
Besides, everyone knows you can't defend yourself with aikido.:D

dragonteeth
03-26-2008, 12:02 PM
I agree that aikido won't help him much simply because of the time it would take to develop any kind of proficiency, but still would be a good thing for him from a psychological standpoint. I would think if he wanted to learn something that would be effective quickly, krav maga would be a better choice since it was designed with rapid proficiency and effectiveness in mind. Still, neither side really learns anything other than that superior firepower is the answer to all problems.

That said, perhaps we're looking at this from the wrong angle. Maybe it might be better to put the bullies into aikido, with emphasis on the aiki way of living more than on the technique?

Adam Loomis
03-26-2008, 04:02 PM
WOW!:eek: didn't expect to see this on the website.

"believe nothing you hear, and only half of what you see"

Adam Loomis
04-04-2008, 12:49 PM
here's an update on the billy saga....

http://www.nwarktimes.com/nwat/News/63772/

osceola
04-12-2008, 09:24 PM
Billy's mother offers source documents to document Billy's case.
E-mail nobully@wolfetrade.com to obtain source documents. Save Billy Wolfe!

Shannon Frye
04-29-2008, 10:14 PM
Am I reading that last article wrong, or does it seem that a long time bully got what was coming to him (and from several different people), and now is striking back out by suing them?

I know it's hard (or impossible) to determine who is the guilty party from reading a few news articles. I'm raising my kids to be able to deal with bullies - and to stand up for others who can't. I was picked on by bullies in grade school - I don't want my sons to go through what I did.

DonMagee
04-30-2008, 07:05 AM
Yea, sounds to me like this kid got exactly what was coming to him, now he's upset.

Michael Douglas
04-30-2008, 08:48 AM
It all looks like Spam, no thanks Faud.