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eric_lecaptain
02-16-2008, 08:01 PM
Iím pretty new to aikido. I started just to have a little work out. At first, I didnít care if I missed class or not.
It seems I have passed a turning point. Now, I canít wait to go to class. In fact, I want to go to class everyday (unfortunately this is not an option at our dojo).
I find myself searching the web for all things aikido related.
I think this is a good addiction...
Any comments or similar experiences??

usn322
02-17-2008, 02:27 AM
yup, same here, and also when i didn,t practice that day i feel tired and a sickly feeling. you are right it is really addicting!!!

Mark Uttech
02-17-2008, 07:17 AM
In my life experience, new things lose their newness in 3 or 4 months. Then complaints and excuses begin to trickle in. If not addressed, this trickle becomes a mighty stream and there's full scale burnout.

In gassho,

Mark

SeiserL
02-17-2008, 07:23 AM
IMHO, an addiction is still an addiction, it will progressively take more and become destructive.

Get over the initial high, accept the discipline, and keep training when the buzz wears off.

Eric Webber
02-17-2008, 07:50 AM
Not to be too technical, but one of the reasons addiction is a disease is because it is chronic, progressive, and (potentially) lethal. As Lynn stated above, it (addiction) takes more and becomes destructive, basically because it strangles out the other areas of life. A new practice can start to become consuming, but hopefully what it will really teach us throughout is true balance in life, which is true health. Health is about balanced living, addiction is about unbalanced living. I understand the inbalance of being a newbie, remember those days fondly; and the shine will eventually wear off, there may be crisis of belief at times (does my aikido really work?!?!?, is this really worth the effort???, etc.), but ultimately this is all part of the path. Enjoy whatever stage you're in, know that it will have to change if there is to be growth. Cheers to all.

justin
02-17-2008, 08:21 AM
This feeling wont be the first or certainly the last time you will get this feeling during your training, I often find the classes I have to struggle to attend get of my butt drag myself to the dojo are the ones I recall and enjoy most.

Eric Webber
02-17-2008, 05:02 PM
When motivation fails, discipline provides.

darin
02-18-2008, 06:43 AM
obsession not addiction for me

lbb
02-18-2008, 09:00 AM
I think the healthy state to strive for is "habit", not "addiction". Of course, habit only comes with time and practice, whereas addiction can happen overnight.

eric_lecaptain
02-18-2008, 10:15 AM
oh, i guess i should have been more specific.
habit or obsession more closely resemble my affliction.... :)

reisler
02-18-2008, 01:10 PM
It seems I have passed a turning point. Now, I can't wait to go to class. In fact, I want to go to class everyday (unfortunately this is not an option at our dojo).
I find myself searching the web for all things aikido related.

I can totally relate...:eek:

Ryan Sanford
02-19-2008, 01:30 AM
For the first x amount of months that I did Aikido I was totally high off of it. I complained when I couldn't go, etc, etc. That wore off, and I'm glad it did.

Of course, going to class is still as enjoyable as ever, if not more so! :D

lbb
02-19-2008, 07:25 AM
oh, i guess i should have been more specific.
habit or obsession more closely resemble my affliction.... :)

"Habit" and "obsession" are two very different things, and affliction is never good -- by definition.

phitruong
02-19-2008, 08:58 AM
I believed Takuan mentioned "sickness of the abiding place" or in my terms "sickness of a stuck mind". It's sort of looking at a tree and not seeing the forest, looking at the forest and not seeing fire woods.

eric_lecaptain
02-19-2008, 09:45 AM
"Habit" and "obsession" are two very different things, and affliction is never good -- by definition.

geez... ok, ok, it's not a habit or obsession. just something i really like to do.
we can call my taste for german and bulgarian beer an obsession. me drinking said beers as often as possible we'll call a habit...

hmm, affliction... the only thing that comes to mind is, perhaps, i like to sit in front of the tv and watch "meerkat manor"... :blush:
i think we can all agree, thats an affliction. :crazy:

lbb
02-19-2008, 10:23 AM
Oh, I know what you mean. I have a bit of a different feeling about it. For me, aikido is something that's a part of my life, and that helps my life stay in balance. Like today, I'm having a very busy, fairly frustrating, all too verbal and cerebral day, and I'm not happy because I am having to deal with some pretty nasty and passive-aggressive people. When I go to the dojo tonight, I won't have to do any talking or any persuading or deal with any snarky bullshit. I'll be able to just work at something, with no deadline, and whatever improvements I make or understanding I come to will be enough. That's a pretty important thing on days like this.

mari
02-19-2008, 10:23 AM
geez... ok, ok, it's not a habit or obsession. just something i really like to do.
we can call my taste for german and bulgarian beer an obsession. me drinking said beers as often as possible we'll call a habit...

hmm, affliction... the only thing that comes to mind is, perhaps, i like to sit in front of the tv and watch "meerkat manor"... :blush:
i think we can all agree, thats an affliction. :crazy:

bulgarian beer? are you serious?

back to aikido - like some mentioned above, keep doing it when the initial joy of going to the dojo as often as possible wears off, because it will :eek: sorry to break to you haha

and remember: RELAX!! evileyes

just kidding, just kidding :p see ya wednesday

eric_lecaptain
02-19-2008, 10:59 AM
bulgarian beer? are you serious?

back to aikido - like some mentioned above, keep doing it when the initial joy of going to the dojo as often as possible wears off, because it will :eek: sorry to break to you haha

and remember: RELAX!! evileyes

just kidding, just kidding :p see ya wednesday

well of course i'm serious. it is better beer than most found in the US... and the wine from Germany and Bulgaria is great too.

perhaps i would be more relaxed at practice if i were to drink a couple astika's or kamenitza's before class. :D
maybe throw in an american beer too (sam adams)...

Ron Tisdale
02-19-2008, 11:03 AM
Ok, let's get serious...almost ANY beer is better than the mainstream beers in the US. It's only the micro-brewaries and the imports that makes it possible for a beer lover to live here! ;) Ok, Sam Adams, Flying Fish, and a few others are the pleasent exceptions.

And yes, in the colloquial sense, aikido is certainly addictive to me. Even more so are the internal exercises I'm working on. Some of them give you quite a rush. One of the things that scares me about it is that it is so addictive that it can keep me really buzzed for extended periods of time, and I have to be carefull not to do certain exercises at night.

Best,
Ron

Karen Wolek
02-19-2008, 03:01 PM
Five and a half years after I first started aikido, the "buzz" and "initial joy" have not worn off. :)

mari
02-19-2008, 03:58 PM
Five and a half years after I first started aikido, the "buzz" and "initial joy" have not worn off. :)

:D but you must have days when you just drag yourself to the dojo. I CAN'T BE THE ONLY ONE that has those days :confused: Of course, things change once i get there but sometime it's just so easy to miss class..

ramenboy
02-19-2008, 04:02 PM
...Of course, things change once i get there but sometime it's just so easy to miss class..

0h my g0d! its homer simpson!!!!!

just kidding.

regards to grabel sensei

mari
02-19-2008, 04:44 PM
0h my g0d! its homer simpson!!!!!

just kidding.

regards to grabel sensei

look who resurfaced, welcome back! :uch: now please share your opinion on how addictive aikido is

Karen Wolek
02-19-2008, 09:10 PM
:D but you must have days when you just drag yourself to the dojo. I CAN'T BE THE ONLY ONE that has those days :confused: Of course, things change once i get there but sometime it's just so easy to miss class..

I might be a freak, but no, the only times I miss class are when I am sick or I can't get there because of a snowstorm or something. I have three kids and I teach preschool for a living, so most days I am pretty tired driving to the dojo (a 40 minute drive), but I ALWAYS can't wait to get there. :)

SeiserL
02-20-2008, 06:54 AM
IMHO, addiction are progressive, destructive, and external (outside in, separate from the self). Addiction is what you do until you incorporate it into identity (who you are).

Likewise, Aikido can be what you externally do until it internally incorporates and become who you are (identity).

While some of this seems semantics, semantics is how we mental file the information and the frame of reference which directs our energy.

Jennifer Yabut
02-20-2008, 02:32 PM
I might be a freak, but no, the only times I miss class are when I am sick or I can't get there because of a snowstorm or something. I have three kids and I teach preschool for a living, so most days I am pretty tired driving to the dojo (a 40 minute drive), but I ALWAYS can't wait to get there. :)

No, you are *not* a freak. ;) I'm also the same way; always on the mat unless I'm working late or if something is ailing me a *little* too much. And if I'm not able to train for some other reason, I'm usually watching video clips of past seminars, tests, etc. Can't get enough...

As far as "addictions" go, I guess there are worst things to get hooked on... ;)

Sy Labthavikul
02-20-2008, 02:45 PM
If Aikido is a high or top priority, then I don't think its an addiction. If its the ONLY priority, and you're doing it to the exclusion of working, being with family, having a social life, then it is an addiction, and also IMHO not aikido anymore.

dps
02-20-2008, 08:44 PM
Oh, I know what you mean. I have a bit of a different feeling about it. For me, aikido is something that's a part of my life, and that helps my life stay in balance. Like today, I'm having a very busy, fairly frustrating, all too verbal and cerebral day, and I'm not happy because I am having to deal with some pretty nasty and passive-aggressive people. When I go to the dojo tonight, I won't have to do any talking or any persuading or deal with any snarky bullshit. I'll be able to just work at something, with no deadline, and whatever improvements I make or understanding I come to will be enough. That's a pretty important thing on days like this.

I agree with Mary. I have made Aikido a part of my everyday life. On the days that I am not at the dojo I practice with my son or by myself.
When I am practicing Aikido I force myself to think of nothing else except the Aikido I am practicing, the enjoyment I receive from Aikido counterbalances things I don't enjoy about everyday life.

Tonight I was at a meeting where one of the members of the committee I am on ticked me off. After the meeting I went to practice and had an extremely difficult time focusing. After forcing myself to concentrate on my practice, I forgot about being angry and enjoyed the rest of my practice. The meeting put me in disharmony and the Aikido practice put me back into my harmony ( A pleasing combination of elements in a whole: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/harmony)

David