Term for techniques against kicks?

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[Ethan Weisgard]

The term "keri waza" is often used when referring to techniques against kicks in aikido. Actually this term means kicking techniques. In aikido this would mean kicks we do as techniques (atemi waza). When we talk about "keri waza" in relation to Aikido, we mean techniques that are used when uke is attacking with kicks. Any suggestions?

In Aiki,

Ethan

[jason jordan]

The term "keri waza" is often used when referring to techniques against kicks in aikido. Actually this term means kicking techniques. In aikido this would mean kicks we do as techniques (atemi waza). When we talk about "keri waza" in relation to Aikido, we mean techniques that are used when uke is attacking with kicks. Any suggestions?

In Aiki,

Ethan
Not sure if I follow you, but I think you mean techniques like "Ashi Yonkyo"
Yonkyo applied to the ashi.

Hope that helps.

[akiy]

Hi Ethan,

I would think that the nomenclature for techniques for kicks would follow the same basic pattern as for any other technique -- namely, with the name of the attack first (eg "yokomenuchi shihonage"). So, for a kokyunage against a front kick, the name that I would use would be "maegeri kokyunage."

As an aside, using kicks and sweeps as nage/tori is fun.

-- Jun

[jason jordan]

Hi Ethan,

As an aside, using kicks and sweeps as nage/tori is fun.

-- Jun

Very Fun!!!!:D :D :D :D

[James Davis]

As an aside, using kicks and sweeps as nage/tori is fun.

-- Jun
Understatement of the year!

I agree wholeheartedly.:D

Thanks for the laugh, Jun. I needed that!:D

[darin]

Ashi tori?

[Ethan Weisgard]

Thanks for the replies, everyone.
Jun, your comment makes very good sense. Thank you!
In Aiki,

Ethan

[Ethan Weisgard]

In regard to a general term for techniques against kicks I was looking for something that might be shorter than "keri nitai suru waza." The term "ashi tori" was suggested, but many of the techniques against kicks don't actually involve taking the leg at all. So although this is a nice, short term, it doesn't quite fit the bill. Thanks all the same. I guess that it is necessary to just use the "explanatory" term. I remember someone asking Saito Sensei "What about defending against kicks?" He replied with a rhetorical question that says a lot: "What is more demanding-defending against a sword or a kick?"
Sensei had done Shito-ryu karate in his younger years. He would once in a while show a technique against a kick, but it was clear to see that he meant that by understanding the principles of aikido you could defend against kicks in the same way you could against the basic striking attacks, so it wasn't necessary to make something special of it.
Sensei would also sometimes demonstrate atemi using the knee and low kicks to uke's leg/knee in many of the entering movements, when emphasizing atemi.

In Aiki,

Ethan

[darin]

Ashi tori is a pretty broad term. Minoru Mochizuki in his book uses ashi tori for kick defense and techniques applied to legs.

[David Yap]

hmmm...there is harai uke, gedan barai, juji uke, sita uke, uchi uke plus the various taisabaki :rolleyes:

Happy holidays

David Y