'qing jing powers' ?

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[statisticool]

Why do you believe one has to "anaylse closely"? It should be obvious to anyone with a basic understanding of introductory physics, because our feet push into the ground and gravity exists.

Check out p. 48 pic. 22 in The Secrets of Judo, a judo book from 1959, that explains that feet pushing off the ground, plus gravity pulling down, creates a resultant vector that is diagrammed as the body (and hence any arm, leg, etc. attached to the body) advancing.


I was reading some of my older MA books this weekend and found that in addition, the karate book Dynamic Karate, 1966, has a similar diagram (p. 109) of such vectors.

[statisticool]

It seems gravity, kicking the ground to push us up, the sum of their (trivial) vectors moving us forward, and ultimately any thing attached to us moves forward, supplemented by as much or as little muscle as needed, is universal to movement, certainly across 'internal' and 'external' martial arts.

For example, 'peng exercises' (http://denner.org/reinhard/neijia/peng/pengExercises.html)


Push open doors by dropping down slightly, arm sort of straight (plenty of angle under the shoulder, too) and straighten slightly up into the door. Use the absolute least muscular effort. This will begin to train peng to the arm and pretty quick your setup motions will be almost unnoticeable.


Where does the basic physics model as presented in the Judo book and the Karate book (both not considered 'internal') not apply?

[statisticool]

From http://denner.org/reinhard/neijia/peng/pengExercises.html


One of the basics powers of qing-jing is the ability to leap unusual distances. The way to train involves the following classical method; stand in a hole 1" deep, knees locked (so you can't use them), sink and bow your lower back outward, and leap up out of the hole using mainly your back (some hips will come in, too). After a period of time, make the hole 2 deep, 5, 10", 2 feet, etc. When this power you've trained into your back is added to your normal highly trained leg strength, you will be able to jump very far.


Two questions come to mind with this claimed training method of 'power':

1) can the author display such powers by jumping unusual distances?

2) Is there record of people training in this manner winning any event, for example, in the Olympics?

[David Orange]

From http://denner.org/reinhard/neijia/peng/pengExercises.html

Two questions come to mind with this claimed training method of 'power':

1) can the author display such powers by jumping unusual distances?

Are you kidding? Man, the author of that piece can LEAP, I'm tellin' ya! LEAP!

David