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Aran Bright
04-17-2007, 08:39 AM
Can anyone tell me how many shihans where recognised by the aikikai at the time of O'sensei's passing?

Chris Li
04-17-2007, 09:47 AM
Can anyone tell me how many shihans where recognised by the aikikai at the time of O'sensei's passing?

That's easy - zero.

Best,

Chris

Dewey
04-17-2007, 02:34 PM
That's easy - zero.

Best,

Chris

What about Tohei? Not a rhetorical question here...

Chris Li
04-17-2007, 04:11 PM
What about Tohei? Not a rhetorical question here...

There was no official "shihan" certification until fairly recently. Normal practice in Japan was (and more or less still is) that anybody 6th dan and up would be called "shihan", so the answer to the question "officially recognized as shihan" would be "zero".

Best,

Chris

raul rodrigo
04-17-2007, 08:10 PM
There was no official "shihan" certification until fairly recently. Normal practice in Japan was (and more or less still is) that anybody 6th dan and up would be called "shihan", so the answer to the question "officially recognized as shihan" would be "zero".

Best,

Chris

Wasn't Tohei named "shihan bucho" of Hombu in 1956? Wouldn't that make him officially a shihan?

R

Chris Li
04-17-2007, 08:47 PM
Wasn't Tohei named "shihan bucho" of Hombu in 1956? Wouldn't that make him officially a shihan?

R

No, that would make him "head of the department" ("bucho") for "instructors" ("shihan").

"Shihan" is just another word for "instructor", and there were never any "official" designations until, as I said before, fairly recently. So far as I know, most Japanese don't even realize that there are "official" designations now - Japanese instructors have been called "shihan" for years without the "official certification" that foreigners are required to receive.

Best,

Chris

Aran Bright
04-22-2007, 07:43 AM
That's easy - zero.

Best,

Chris

Thank you, much appreciated, perhaps a revised question would be how many 6th dan and above where there at the time of O'sensei's passing.

Aran

Ecosamurai
04-22-2007, 08:53 AM
When I saw this thread title I thought the rest of the post would be:

".....does it take to change a ligthbulb?"

:)

Mike

Mark Freeman
04-22-2007, 11:26 AM
When I saw this thread title I thought the rest of the post would be:

".....does it take to change a ligthbulb?"

:)

Mike

One, but only if the lightbulb makes the first move;)

Regards,

Mark

crbateman
04-22-2007, 12:14 PM
".....does it take to change a ligthbulb?"Hmmm... Tenkan on top of a ladder... Interesting.

Aran Bright
04-23-2007, 05:59 AM
When I saw this thread title I thought the rest of the post would be:

".....does it take to change a ligthbulb?"

:)

Mike

Yeah I thought of making that joke...