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Boontom
06-21-2006, 01:56 AM
Other than white are there any other colors? I know Aikido isnt a fashion show, but it would be interesting to see someone with a full black Gi or something. :) Also, it would be cool if I could get my hands on some Feudal Japan era japanese clothing reporductions. I like the baggy clothing look. :)

kaishaku
06-21-2006, 02:08 AM
I have both white and blue judogi, but I don't know of anyone who permits anything other than white in aikido. However, you may have the option of selecting between black and blue hakama.

Boontom
06-21-2006, 02:14 AM
ah, I see. Thank you. There is an oriental imports store in my town, I always keep on the look out for interesting Gi's even if I cant wear them to Aikido, I can have them to wear for fun. Gi's are so much more comfortable than normal clothes.

Michael Meister
06-21-2006, 07:35 AM
I've got a gi with a slight pink tint (something red ended up in the washing mashine with it)... I try to avoid wearing it.

dps
06-21-2006, 07:48 AM
You might find this recent thread interesting.

http://www.aikiweb.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10315&highlight=pink

especially the last post by Eric Simmons

diesel
06-21-2006, 07:50 AM
I'll point out the 'feudal era' japan was not a bunch of people running around in keikogi (dogi.) Instead maybe you are thinking more of yukkata (summerwear), samugi, or even the formal kimono and hakama..

Check out some yoga stores, they have what look like dogi pants, but are usually a bit more 'colorful', if that is to your liking.

Cheers

Mark Freeman
06-21-2006, 11:09 AM
When I first started practicing, all the 4th Dans in our federation wore black gi's. It did give them a rather 'special' appearance. This was discontinued shortly afterwards, and now everyone wears white gi, the hakama are white for the 5th dans and above at gradings and other important occasions.

regards,

Mark

Talon
06-21-2006, 11:27 AM
At our dojo we just incorporated a different color sheme (just for a change). We went to more of a Kendo type gi in dark blue with a blue hakama for Qu (3 and up). Black Hakama at shodan. I prefer the Kendo type gi not because of the color (I have a white one as well) but because it has shorter sleves that end half way between the elbow and wrist. This I find more conforable and easier to see and work with the wrist techniques. We probalby will go back to the traditional white top in the future (and I have the Kendo top in white as well when we do),

This color experiment was done just as a change and being an independent Dojo, the sensei can do these changes without getting in trouble.

Lucy Smith
06-21-2006, 12:00 PM
Gi's are so much more comfortable than normal clothes. :eek: :eek: :eek:
You really think so??? I hate wearing a gi for the moment. Allow me to explain: I used to practice Karate when I was 7 till I was 9, and the Karate gi had stripes to tie it so it wouldn't only be tied by the obi, which I find quite frustrating because the obi isn't enough!! I have to fix everything every time I stand from the floor, which makes the cool job of being uke quite heatable. I also have a problem figuring out where to tie the obi... some people say women should tie it around their waist, and I think it looks better, but I'm gonna have a piercing done in my belly button soon so it will bother me. Besides, Sensei always says the knot should be where the "hara" is, but that would be around the hips. Anyway, why did I just say all this??? I'm getting crazy... sorry!!!

My point, which I should have started with: there was another thread a while ago about a Dojo changing white gi's for black ones. I personally find this quite expensive for students, but... who am I to judge??? We are traditional. I like white hakamas, too. My Sensei's Sensei, who is an 8th Dan, has one. It looks cool.
Paul: why don't you just make your Aikido gi's with shorter sleeves, as we do? It's quite easy.

Well I'm soooo sorry I wrote so much... It's just that I have to study and I don't want to!!! :freaky:

Lucy ;)

justin
06-21-2006, 12:15 PM
you dont have to wear a aikido or judo gi just because you practice aikido i got one hated it and went back to my karate gi, if you got a competition karate gi the arms and legs are shorter by design anyway.

Talon
06-21-2006, 01:11 PM
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Paul: why don't you just make your Aikido gi's with shorter sleeves, as we do? It's quite easy.

Lucy ;)

Well we are a small Dojo of only about 15 students. I guess we could get our gis custom made but why do it when there are gi's around that are exactly what we're looking for. I also like the straps that keep the Gi in place and the Kendo gis come with those straps. One on the inside at the hips and one on the outside at the right shoulder. This keeps the gi in place during practice and constant readjustment is not needed as with a conventional Judo gi.

DonMagee
06-21-2006, 01:15 PM
Well we are a small Dojo of only about 15 students. I guess we could get our gis custom made but why do it when there are gi's around that are exactly what we're looking for. I also like the straps that keep the Gi in place and the Kendo gis come with those straps. One on the inside at the hips and one on the outside at the right shoulder. This keeps the gi in place during practice and constant readjustment is not needed as with a conventional Judo gi.


Those ties to hold the gi together always just get ripped off when I try to use them.

Talon
06-21-2006, 02:05 PM
Well this is quite a new thing for me so I don't know if those ties will hold up but the ones on our gi's are sown on pretty tough, I think the tie itself will have to rip before the stiching will let go. If you do a lot of throws by grabbing the gi, I think those ties will likely not help much, but since we do mosly wrist grabs, kokyo and koshi throws that don't rely on grabbing the gi, I think they will last a while.

Bronson
06-21-2006, 02:18 PM
I guess we could get our gis custom made but why do it when there are gi's around that are exactly what we're looking for. I also like the straps that keep the Gi in place and the Kendo gis come with those straps. One on the inside at the hips and one on the outside at the right shoulder. This keeps the gi in place during practice and constant readjustment is not needed as with a conventional Judo gi.

I've been using a kendo gi top too and quite like it. It's not as durable as a judo gi (I had to reinforce the area where the straps sew on). As to buying custom gi I'm fairly certain that wasn't what Lucy had in mind. It IS quite easy to alter the sleeve/pant length on a judo or karate gi to fit just how you like it.

Bronson

justin
06-21-2006, 02:46 PM
the other reason i prefer a karate is gi is they come in 8oz which is excellent and light for the hot summer months or at least one month in the uk.

John Boswell
06-21-2006, 02:58 PM
The only organization that I know of using black Gi are the Bunjinkan (Ninpo arts). All aikido dojo's use strictly white or unbleched gi, with the rare exception of some using blue gi... but they are also very into Kenpo from what I have seen.

As for the fit of a Gi goes: have it tailored! Almost every Gi I've purchused had long sleeves. I just rolled them back to the length that I prefered and paid the seamstress at the local dry cleaners to hem up the sleeves for me for about 10 bucks or so. (If you do this with a new gi, wash it in hot water first... a few times. Make sure to get the "shrink" out before having the sleeves hemmed up.)

Color is over-rated when you consider the fact that a gi is a martial arts uniform made for getting grabbed, grappled and beat up. Stick with white, bleach it every so often to keep it looking fresh, but not all the time and not too much bleach... the smell is bad. And if you want fancy japanese clothing for around the house, then yeah... get a kimono, formal hakama and such to wear around the house. Personally, I'm not into that, though I have been known to wear my gi pants when I get home and just put on a clean shirt... till I have time to clean up after all the chores are done.

:ai:

Talon
06-21-2006, 03:06 PM
I prefer the white top myself as well but for a change if the sensei thinks he wants something different, what the heck, I'm game.

Roman Kremianski
06-21-2006, 04:32 PM
For me, it's worth it getting to shodan just to wear a hakama. Mmm...

(Black!)

Boontom
06-21-2006, 06:24 PM
I still think it would be cool to have Japanese clothes of like the Feudal era.

Mike Hamer
06-21-2006, 07:00 PM
I have yet to purchase my Gi. I am looking at getting black, and I think that not allowing black would be foolish, I mean just look at the yin and yang symbol!!!! But thats just me, a poor little newb with no real expirience, sorry.

Qatana
06-21-2006, 08:16 PM
Note to Lucy
The reason women tie the obi around our waist is that our hips are bigger so if we tie it around our hips it just slides right up to your waist anyway.
I always end up tearing the straps out of my karate gi, and I can't even find a judo gi in my size that I can move my arms in.
And be really, really careful with your new piercing- as soon as you can you should get the screw-in kind of jewelry, the pressure rings can pop open and stepping on a bead with bare feet is no fun. Make sure you use antibacterial soap on it threee times a day.
I have a black gi but wouldn't dare wear it in the dojo.

Mike Hamer
06-21-2006, 08:40 PM
WHHHHHYYYYYY!?!?!?!?!?!?!? :freaky:


Could someone please explain this mentality to me?

Karen Wolek
06-21-2006, 10:28 PM
WHHHHHYYYYYY!?!?!?!?!?!?!? :freaky:




Because it's a uniform, maybe? ;)

Talon
06-21-2006, 10:45 PM
Uniforms in my mind don't matter its the training that matters. We did a month of training in the park with regular street clothes and ukeme on Grass one year. With shoes and all. I tell you moving/tenkaning in shoes on grass is much different than barefoot on the mat. Again clothes in my mind don't really matter, you should not limit yourself. Traditional is great and I'm all for it, but a change everyonce in a while does not hurt and is a healthy thing.

mickeygelum
06-22-2006, 12:50 AM
We have black judogi...it does not matter what you wear as long as the training is diligent and correct...One minute you are doing karate, the next MMA..oops, then Aikido...how many times must you change your attire in three or four hours...

Miku-san

DonMagee
06-22-2006, 07:20 AM
I perfer blue simply because you dont have to bleach it (which weaknes the fabric over time) It never gets that yellow sweat color. And (in the case of bjj and judo) you dont have to spend time removing blood stains as they dont show up on blue. Its a plus that blue is a legal judo competition color as well.

I never understood white as the default color of the gi. It just doesn't make sense. Its hard to keep clean, hard to keep looking well kept, and not forgiving of stains.

Mark Freeman
06-22-2006, 07:48 AM
I perfer blue simply because you dont have to bleach it (which weaknes the fabric over time) It never gets that yellow sweat color. And (in the case of bjj and judo) you dont have to spend time removing blood stains as they dont show up on blue.

Don, you must have 'royalty' running in your veins ;)

Karen Wolek
06-22-2006, 02:10 PM
Of course it's the training that matters. But in some dojo, there is a uniform. In my dojo, it's a white gi. Why? I don't know and I don't care. I just show up, change into my gi, and get on the mat.

Basia Halliop
06-22-2006, 02:22 PM
It never gets that yellow sweat color.

Hmm... sounds like a good justification for a white Gi. It means you have to wash it before the sweat builds up too thick :).

Neal Earhart
06-22-2006, 03:25 PM
It just doesn't make sense. Its hard to keep clean, hard to keep looking well kept, and not forgiving of stains.

I've never had a problem keeping a white Gi clean and well kept, and I have some pretty old Gis. I wash my Gi (I use Judo Gis) after each day of practice and every 10 washings or so, I use some chlorox.

I don't understand how people can wear a Gi for multiple practice days, especially in the summer months, without washing. :eek:

On some days it can be very difficult to practice with people whose Gis smell :grr:

Gi hygiene !!! ;) :D

Lucy Smith
06-22-2006, 05:06 PM
And be really, really careful with your new piercing- as soon as you can you should get the screw-in kind of jewelry, the pressure rings can pop open and stepping on a bead with bare feet is no fun.

Pressure rings??? At least here we wear screw-in piercings from the beginning. I'm waiting to have my 5th kyu exam first, just in case of... anything.

Thank you for worrying for me :)
Lucy

DonMagee
06-22-2006, 08:44 PM
I've never had a problem keeping a white Gi clean and well kept, and I have some pretty old Gis. I wash my Gi (I use Judo Gis) after each day of practice and every 10 washings or so, I use some chlorox.

I don't understand how people can wear a Gi for multiple practice days, especially in the summer months, without washing. :eek:

On some days it can be very difficult to practice with people whose Gis smell :grr:

Gi hygiene !!! ;) :D

I wash my gi every practice. Its why I have 4 of them. (2 blue, 2 white). My white gi's are now more of a unbleached look in color with black and red spots all over them. I used to bleach them, but i found it really destroys my gi's. I didn't have this problem until judo so I'm guessing it has something to do with all the tugging combined with the frequent washing (i train 4 days a week, so each gi gets washed and hung dry 1 time a week). I also found it annoying to have to use peroxide to get out the blood and just started washing it the best it can in the washer. With the blue gi's you can't notice any stains of blood or sweat. But with the white onces there are little red blotches here and there. I used to only have a single white gi which I would wash after every class. Within a year it was all but in tatters (especially the pants). I think a lot of that was bleaching and blood spot removal (oxy clean or peroxide).

But I do feel you about people who dont wash their gi. It really gets you when you have a guys croch smothering your face in the north south position, or you get stuck with your face in their armpit. I personally just refuse to train with people that smell. I'm very rude about it. One time I actually attacked someone with a bottle of febreeze.

Neal Earhart
06-22-2006, 09:27 PM
I personally just refuse to train with people that smell. I'm very rude about it. One time I actually attacked someone with a bottle of febreeze.

I am also very straightforward when it comes to people whose Gis "offend" :yuck:

But, the febreeze is a brilliant idea!!! I didn't even think of that. I've added it to my shopping list for the weekend !

hapkidoike
06-22-2006, 10:42 PM
I was thinking of going to a clear gi.
And about the febreeze thing. Be careful who you do that to, espically given that it is made of funky ass chemicals i assume, and some people may be allergic. Other people might just wait till after class and hit you in the back of the head with a lead pipe, that would be my response.

DonMagee
06-23-2006, 08:11 AM
Yea, I dont suggest febreezing random people, make sure you know them. I threatened the guy I febreezed twice. You have to follow though with your promises.