is aikido in the work place wrong?

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[emma.mason15]

hi guys ...
knowing my evil ways you may have noticed that i only poke the patients! ...
as a moral question ... would it be totally worng for me to practise a small amount of aikido on the patients?
you know ...
a little light nikkyo here ...
a sankyo there ...
and pretend im helping them with physio??
would that be so wrong??? WOULD IT???
i mean I already practice bokken work with the porter ....
....
(ok ... we play starwars with mops) ...
but could I not just be VERY careful???
:p :D :p

[dps]

Only if they attack you first. :)

[emma.mason15]

Only if they attack you first. :)
now wheres the fun in that?

[Jerry Miller]

Just ask them to grab your wrist. ;)

[dps]

Or pull your finger. No sorry wrong trick. :p :p :p

[maynard]

Or pull your finger. No sorry wrong trick.
I thought that was only for the really big ones.

And.. I think it's ok to practice at work, if you first yell something like "He's heading right for me!" and claim you were attacked first. Just remember to properly dispose of all witnesses.

[dps]

Wear a ninja mask so nobody knows who you are.

[Lee Mulgrew]

Yonkyo? No no no, I was checking his pulse honest! :p

[Steve Mullen]

"He's heading right for me!" If that was in reference to the skecth on south park where they are hunting then its hillarious. dam i love that show

[kocakb]

don't you have a dpt of autopsy?
go there, and try every technique, you would also have the chance to try the limits of nikkyo or sankyo...and you could find out how long you can pin uke!!! in ikkyo or yonkyo until you get bored :)

[Mark Freeman]

don't you have a dpt of autopsy?
go there, and try every technique, you would also have the chance to try the limits of nikkyo or sankyo...and you could find out how long you can pin uke!!! in ikkyo or yonkyo until you get bored :)

If riga mortis has set in, you can practice on a 'fully resistant' uke ;)

[billybob]

And.. I think it's ok to practice at work, if you first yell something like "He's heading right for me!" and claim you were attacked first. Just remember to properly dispose of all witnesses.
said my friend John Murray.

Thanks for reminding the good people on the web that it's true that 'all the nuts roll down to Florida'.

Emma - thanks for asking a question whose answers proved to me there are sicker minds than mine out there!!!

dave

[James Davis]

Thanks for reminding the good people on the web that it's true that 'all the nuts roll down to Florida'.


dave
You daaaaamn right. ;)

[Lucy Smith]

Emma: have you noticed that you are posting with your first and last name here???

[AESBird]

Remind me to try and avoid being admitted to Dorchester Hospital?! :dead:

[dps]

Is Emma Mason a physical therapist, a pain management specialist or maybe activities director? :p

[dan guthrie]

If riga mortis has set in, you can practice on a 'fully resistant' uke ;)

But what if they tap out? Do you dare let them up?

[James Davis]

But what if they tap out? Do you dare let them up?
No way! :eek: :(

Have you seen "Dawn of the Dead"?! :dead: evileyes

[emma.mason15]

maybe i shouldhave posted in the annonomous sections?

[billybob]

Emma,

I was trying to sound friendly when I said I would like to meet you, not creepy drooly gropey.

One does poorly to anger aiki women!

dave

[James Davis]

One does poorly to anger aiki women!


Dude, you have no idea. evileyes

Emma is not one to be trifled with; she trifles back. ;)

[shadowedge]

If I ever get the chance to go to the UK, :)

Ill be sure to add being admitted to your hospital in my itinerary... I would soooooooooo love to be your patient! :uch:

hmmm... that made me think.... "Get admitted now, and get a free session in Aikido!" more hospitals should have this! :p

[dps]

Better train harder Emma. It looks like your future patients may be able to fight back. :p

[emma.mason15]

men in hospital gowns!!!! HA .... YOU NO FRIGHTEN ME!

[Jess McDonald]

you guys are all crazy! :p

[dps]

you guys are all crazy! :p
Yes, one too many breakfalls. :p

[emma.mason15]

I take offense to crazy, that would suggest that I didnt know what i was doing ... i prefer sick, twisted or peverse! lmao ...
personally I think that discribes most MA students though :D :D :D

[Tim Griffiths]

Medics....and martial arts....and ninja masks....
Arrrgh...I can't resist:

http://drmcninja.com

Click on the Archives link for the the older series.

Sorry....

Tim

[CitoMaramba]

If riga mortis has set in, you can practice on a 'fully resistant' uke ;)
It's been done:

Percept Mot Skills. 1993 Aug;77(1):123-31

An anatomical analysis of Aikido's second teaching: an investigation of Nikyo.

Olson GD, Seitz FC.

Department of Health and Human Development, Montana State University, Bozeman 59717.

One of the strongest subduing techniques of the Martial Art Aikido is classified as Nikyo (Second-teaching). This investigation focused on examining this teaching with the intention of describing the anatomical tissues involved in the etiology of pain experienced with the application of this procedure. Particular focus was placed on the examination of a cadaver's arm musculature affected when this maneuver was applied precisely.

(emphasis mine)

[dps]

It's been done:

Percept Mot Skills. 1993 Aug;77(1):123-31

An anatomical analysis of Aikido's second teaching: an investigation of Nikyo.

Olson GD, Seitz FC.

Department of Health and Human Development, Montana State University, Bozeman 59717.

One of the strongest subduing techniques of the Martial Art Aikido is classified as Nikyo (Second-teaching). This investigation focused on examining this teaching with the intention of describing the anatomical tissues involved in the etiology of pain experienced with the application of this procedure. Particular focus was placed on the examination of a cadaver's arm musculature affected when this maneuver was applied precisely.

(emphasis mine)


Its been done.

A Short History of Daito-ryu Aikijutjitsu

THE DAITORYU is believed to have originated within the family of Emperor Seiwa and to have been greatly developed by one of the emperor's descendants, Shinra Saburo Minamoto no Yoshimitsu, in the eleventh century. Through his careful study of human anatomy-he made a point of visiting battlefields and execution grounds to examine and dissect the bodies of war dead and executed criminals-Yoshimitsu determined which were the most effective strikes, blows, holds, joint locks, and pins. To fathom the mysteries of aiki, or harmonized energy, Yoshimitsu spent hours observing a female spider trapping prey in her web. Furthermore, he was a talented musician, and while accompanying dancers on his sho (a type of wind instrument), he gained insight into the nature of good rhythm and smooth transition between movements. Yoshimitsu incorporated all of this knowledge into the martial art he had been taught by family members and then passed on to his sons this improved and expanded system-which came to be known as the "Daitoryu," after the name of one of his residences.

Omiya, Shiro, The Hidden Roots of Aikido, Kodansha International, Tokyo 1998.

So Emma this could be an "off the mat" opportunity for you.

[James Davis]

It's been done:

Percept Mot Skills. 1993 Aug;77(1):123-31

An anatomical analysis of Aikido's second teaching: an investigation of Nikyo.

Olson GD, Seitz FC.

Department of Health and Human Development, Montana State University, Bozeman 59717.

One of the strongest subduing techniques of the Martial Art Aikido is classified as Nikyo (Second-teaching). This investigation focused on examining this teaching with the intention of describing the anatomical tissues involved in the etiology of pain experienced with the application of this procedure. Particular focus was placed on the examination of a cadaver's arm musculature affected when this maneuver was applied precisely.

(emphasis mine)
Eeeww. :yuck:


I think rigor mortis had gone before they started playing with the cadaver, but it's still neat that someone did research like that.

Wierd, but neat. :)

[Mark Freeman]

Thanks Cito & Dave for the additional info, and I thought I was just making a sick joke! ;)

regards,

Mark

[billybob]

Off the cadaver thing and more on 'aikido at work' - I threw a supervisor over a desk at this company in my first six months here. He was pushy. We had words; I said the 'magic two words' in English and he punched me across the jaw. True to (my sick, sad) form I smiled and invited him to do it again. He complied and I used his energy to hurl him over my desk. I still work here; he does not...............oddly though, I've never been promoted........not in ten years. hmmm.

:)

dave

[James Davis]

I still work here; he does not...............oddly though, I've never been promoted........not in ten years. hmmm.

:)

dave
Maybe you need to kick some more ass! :p

[Mark Freeman]

Off the cadaver thing and more on 'aikido at work' - I threw a supervisor over a desk at this company in my first six months here. He was pushy. We had words; I said the 'magic two words' in English and he punched me across the jaw. True to (my sick, sad) form I smiled and invited him to do it again. He complied and I used his energy to hurl him over my desk. I still work here; he does not...............oddly though, I've never been promoted........not in ten years. hmmm.

:)

dave

Maybe they are concerned about the size of the Boardroom table and whether they would be able to ukemi over it! :D

[Selnith]

i was going to say that i think Emma may be a little crazy, but in a good way (as chris said to me on monday) but i think it's more than Emma is crazy, and i only signed up today

I think i'll fit in just fine

as for the Aikido at Work, my term time job is in the uni bar, one of the guys who works there is a bit of an expletive and had tried to (and suceeded to) hit me a few times, i got annoyed, the next time he tried it i sort of took control of him, walked him into the storeroom (not being too carefull about not hitting his head off the walls as i went) and nikkyo-ed him until he was well and truely sorry, and apparently i have a really evil nikkyo, i then let it be know what this expletive had been doing and various other members of bar staff had "a quiet word" with him over the next week. evileyes*grynz* evileyes you'd think all those lovely boys didn't approve of expletive hitting me