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Jappzz
07-16-2001, 01:57 PM
Hi you lot!

I was reading the terms for living as a ushi-deshi in the IWAMA DOJO. The second term was (and i quote) "...intrested parties must have a letter of recommendation from the KAMBU KAI or member of KAMBU KAI. I've never heard of this "Kambu kai" before. Could someone please tell me what it means?

Jasper

--Mu shin no butsu--

Erik
07-30-2001, 12:40 PM
I contacted an individual whom I was certain would know what it was and much to my surprise did not. This probably means it doesn't apply here in the US. Interesting, as there seems to be a dilineation between Iwama Ryu and the Kambu Kai.

Maybe you should post this over in the Aikido Journal forum. If nothing else Stan Pranin would probably know.

Peter Goldsbury
07-30-2001, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by Jappzz
Hi you lot!

I was reading the terms for living as a ushi-deshi in the IWAMA DOJO. The second term was (and i quote) "...intrested parties must have a letter of recommendation from the KAMBU KAI or member of KAMBU KAI. I've never heard of this "Kambu kai" before. Could someone please tell me what it means?

Jasper

--Mu shin no butsu--

From the Japanese, , the word simply means 'association of kanbu, or organisers'. 'Kan' means 'main' as in'main line' and the kanbu in my university aikido club are the 3rd year students who run the club: organise the training, arrange seminars and liaise with other dojos. Thus a 'kanbu-kai', if it existed, would be a nationwide or area wide association of such kanbu groups. There is no such organisation in Japan and I have never heard of one in the Aikikai. It is different from a t͉ (shihankai) an association of shihans, which exists in the United States.

That said, if someone wanted to be an uchi-deshi in my dojo, I would reject him/her without some pretty cast iron recommendations about attitudes to training from people whose opinions I value. I have no knowledge of Iwama-ryu, but it might be a loose grouping of senior instructors affiliated to the Iwama Dojo. At least the above explanation shows what the term means.

Best regards,

Peter Goldsbury

Erik
07-31-2001, 12:51 AM
Originally posted by Peter Goldsbury
There is no such organisation in Japan and I have never heard of one in the Aikikai.

I have no knowledge of Iwama-ryu, but it might be a loose grouping of senior instructors affiliated to the Iwama Dojo.


I guess the mystery deepens. The person I contacted would qualify in the above category but he had no knowledge of the organization.

I wonder if someone did a knucklehead move when putting the site together.